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#Post#: 42741--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 28, 2024, 2:17 pm
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Try and find out if anyone else is going to the tribunal.
Our admin [member=1]cp8759[/member] may help as he knows about
resolutions although that may not help.
#Post#: 42744--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: Carlos CGD
Date: October 28, 2024, 2:29 pm
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Thank you
I will drop him a message.
#Post#: 42763--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 28, 2024, 5:32 pm
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Are you or are you not in an area (your side of the road) where
ONLY 2-wheeled footway parking is permitted according to the
signs in situ?
Were you parked with 4 wheels on the footway?
No point dancing around these objective fundamentals.
That you've done this for decades etc. are subjective comments
in support of which you would appear to have no objective
evidence.
This is not to say it's not true, but you should recognise the
challenge which you would face at adjudication.
#Post#: 42796--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 29, 2024, 4:37 am
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[member=2768]Carlos CGD[/member] well unfortunately this thread
wasn't brought to my attention when it started, and I can't
reply to most threads as I'm normally swamped with tribunal
appeals, but we are where we are.
I've never seen a footway parking resolution from Ealing, but
that doesn't mean they wouldn't be able to produce one. I have
requested it anyway, and Ealing are often quite quick at coming
back to me, so there's no harm in waiting to see if it comes
back before the discount expires.
#Post#: 42926--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: Carlos CGD
Date: October 29, 2024, 10:42 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [member=2768]Carlos CGD[/member] well unfortunately this
thread wasn't brought to my attention when it started, and I
can't reply to most threads as I'm normally swamped with
tribunal appeals, but we are where we are.
>
> I've never seen a footway parking resolution from Ealing, but
that doesn't mean they wouldn't be able to produce one. I have
requested it anyway, and Ealing are often quite quick at coming
back to me, so there's no harm in waiting to see if it comes
back before the discount expires.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thats brilliant, thank you.
#Post#: 42931--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: Carlos CGD
Date: October 29, 2024, 10:47 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> Are you or are you not in an area (your side of the road)
where ONLY 2-wheeled footway parking is permitted according to
the signs in situ?
>
> Were you parked with 4 wheels on the footway?
>
> No point dancing around these objective fundamentals.
>
> That you've done this for decades etc. are subjective comments
in support of which you would appear to have no objective
evidence.
>
> This is not to say it's not true, but you should recognise the
challenge which you would face at adjudication.
>
--- End Quote ---
I am parked with two wheels on the tarmaced area and two wheels
on the footpath.
I don't think it looks very clear from the pictures, but the
tarmac area is lowered to meet the road, so it's at an angle.
If the tarmac area is classed as the footpath and not the road,
then yes all 4 wheels are on the footpath.
#Post#: 43003--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 29, 2024, 3:49 pm
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It is 'a footpath or part of the road other than the
carriageway'.
So as regards the signs and underlying legislation as written
the contravention occurred.
However, whether you have a defence based in:
The council have disapplied the legislation for the complete
width of the footway (the 'resolution' as per cp's post), or
Legitimate expectation..
we've yet to discover.
#Post#: 43152--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: Chaseman
Date: October 30, 2024, 10:15 am
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I will not get into the footway parking issue as others have
commented extensively. On the subject of "two tickets for the
same offence" here is the key case from the London Tribunals
(previously PATAS) to quote:
Go into www.londontribunals.gov.uk, select Register of Appeals
and then enter the case number 2110189461.
The adjudicator said in essence "A car does not commit a new
offence every 24 hours if it hasn't moved in the meantime. It's
a continuous contravention".
This might help you to get off one of the PCNs.
#Post#: 43185--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: Carlos CGD
Date: October 30, 2024, 1:05 pm
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--- Quote from: Chaseman link ---
>
> I will not get into the footway parking issue as others have
commented extensively. On the subject of "two tickets for the
same offence" here is the key case from the London Tribunals
(previously PATAS) to quote:
>
> Go into www.londontribunals.gov.uk, select Register of Appeals
and then enter the case number 2110189461.
>
> The adjudicator said in essence "A car does not commit a new
offence every 24 hours if it hasn't moved in the meantime. It's
a continuous contravention".
>
> This might help you to get off one of the PCNs.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you Chaseman.
Ealing have rejected both tickets for my car, including the
second one even though the car hadn't been moved from when they
ticketed it the first time and this can be seen clearly in the
pictures.
I have attached both the rejections in the Google drive folder
under Ealing Rejection AO02268960
and Ealing Rejection AO02216923
HTML https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tSkJe86l067leGVtVFbNzK-rqFNCgkcd?usp=sharing
They have used the same rejection for both tickets?
So it looks like I will have to go to tribunal for at least one
of the tickets.
#Post#: 44608--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Parked on footpath
DIR By: Carlos CGD
Date: November 8, 2024, 10:20 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [member=2768]Carlos CGD[/member] well unfortunately this
thread wasn't brought to my attention when it started, and I
can't reply to most threads as I'm normally swamped with
tribunal appeals, but we are where we are.
>
> I've never seen a footway parking resolution from Ealing, but
that doesn't mean they wouldn't be able to produce one. I have
requested it anyway, and Ealing are often quite quick at coming
back to me, so there's no harm in waiting to see if it comes
back before the discount expires.
>
--- End Quote ---
Hi cp8759
Did anything come back from Ealing with regards to the parking
resolution?
My discount period for the tickets ends on Sunday
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