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       #Post#: 36458--------------------------------------------------
       Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: September 11, 2024, 10:26 am
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       My partner was driving her car round a roundabout at junction 11
       on the M20 in Kent a month or so ago and was side-swiped by a
       foreign registered van. It was the other driver's fault and
       details were exchanged. All the details from the other driver
       were in Bulgarian. She has forwarded the details to her insurers
       who are now apparently refusing to deal with the matter as she
       wasn't given any Green Card details and wasn't aware that any
       were required. she'd assumed all the details were on the form
       given to her by the Bulgarian driver.
       Luckily the damage wasn't serious, rear wing panel badly scraped
       and fell off. I bought a bag of fixings and clipped it back on.
       So what is the situation regarding Green Cards in the UK with
       foreign drivers? My own insurance says I don't need one when
       abroad.
       #Post#: 36518--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: 666
       Date: September 11, 2024, 2:08 pm
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       AIUI they're optional.
       Anyway, your partner needs to ask her insurer what clause in
       their Ts and Cs tells her to get the green card details. I've
       never seen one.
       #Post#: 36541--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: The Slithy Tove
       Date: September 12, 2024, 3:08 am
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       Sounds like just an excuse to me. A few years ago a Spanish
       lorry (with Bulgarian driver) sideswiped me - all his fault. The
       only details I got were a copy of his driving licence* and what
       looked like a normal insurance certificate. Insurance company
       handled it all. It took an age, but they have whole departments
       to deal with claims against foreign insurance policies.
       *A Bulgarian driving license doesn't show an address, so things
       slowed down somewhat because I had no address for the driver.
       #Post#: 36562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: September 12, 2024, 5:06 am
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       Insurance Green card not required for someone from an EU country
       to drive in the UK AFAIK.
       Edit
       --- Quote ---
       > The UK is part of the Green Card Free Circulation Area
       (GCFCA), which comprises all 30 European Economic Area (EEA)
       countries as well as Andorra, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Montenegro,
       Serbia and Switzerland. UK-based drivers do not need to carry
       green cards for their vehicles when travelling to these
       countries.
       --- End Quote ---
       This obviously works both ways.
       #Post#: 36664--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: September 12, 2024, 2:44 pm
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       Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of the
       other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my
       partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he
       gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
       #Post#: 36703--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: nigelbb
       Date: September 13, 2024, 1:32 am
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       --- Quote from: roythebus link ---
       >
       > Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of
       the other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my
       partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he
       gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes.
  HTML https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea#:~:text=Austria%2C%20Belgium%2C%20Bulgaria%2C%20Croatia,%2C%20Slovenia%2C%20Spain%20and%20Sweden.
       #Post#: 36717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: 666
       Date: September 13, 2024, 4:02 am
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       --- Quote from: roythebus link ---
       >
       > Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Roy, I think you're confusing us with Google.
       #Post#: 36765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: September 13, 2024, 10:36 am
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       --- Quote from: roythebus link ---
       >
       > Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of
       the other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my
       partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he
       gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There were two Bulgarian vans and two bulgarian drivers?  Whose
       details did your partner get?
       #Post#: 36770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: 666
       Date: September 13, 2024, 11:50 am
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
       >
       > [quote author=roythebus link=topic=3102.msg36664#msg36664
       date=1726170250]
       > Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of
       the other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my
       partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he
       gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       There were two Bulgarian vans and two bulgarian drivers?  Whose
       details did your partner get?
       [/quote]
       I realise we're going even farther off-topic, but ...
       The English-speaking Bulgar would have to have been
       spectacularly stupid to give his own details. But not
       impossible.
       #Post#: 36790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Card enquiry
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: September 13, 2024, 3:13 pm
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       As far as my partner is aware the english speaker gave the
       details of the alleged offending driver.
       It seems to me the insurance company don't think it's owrth
       chasing. the damage was the rear offside wheel arch section was
       scratched and knocked off, it's plastic and held on with plastic
       clips. A bag of clips was about a tenner and an aerosol can of
       Discovery black to match the OE spec is about £60. Insurance
       excess is £300. Wing section maybe £65. Says it all really.
       Put it down to experience, make sure next time it happens to get
       the Green Card details. That's the problem with living almost
       next to the M20 and the brexit lorry park AKA Sevington Inland
       Border Facility.
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