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       #Post#: 36356--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: Nom1
       Date: September 10, 2024, 11:47 am
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       Hi HC
       Cutting to the chase:
       I submitted the stat dec about not receiving the PCN to TEC.
       When I called TEC they said Croydon hadn't registered it with
       them yet, so I submitted to Croydon.
       Croydon accepted my SD and reduced the fine from £195 to the
       original £65.
       I am arguing with Croydon on the basis that the road sign
       indicating "No Right Turn" was not visible whilst driving as it
       was parallel to the road (not facing the oncoming traffic) and
       had been like that for a year.
       Croydon are saying they don't have to warn about i.e "No Right
       Turn" restrictions prior to the junction "There is no
       requirement for advance warning signs to be in place"
       I believe Croydon are incorrect.  They have given me until 16th
       September to pay the £65 or it goes up to the increased amount.
       Nom1
       #Post#: 36360--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 10, 2024, 11:58 am
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       What do you have from Croydon - do you actually have a PCN?
       #Post#: 36365--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: Nom1
       Date: September 10, 2024, 12:16 pm
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       Hi Stamfordman,
       Strangely enough, now you mention it, I have never received an
       actual PCN from Croydon only the "Reminder Letter - Please Do
       Not Ignore" and subsequent letters in the same format.
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       Does this make a difference?
       Thanks
       Nom1
       #Post#: 36391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 10, 2024, 2:46 pm
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       I think you should ask them for the PCN as we can't give full
       advice on reps without it. Also, the idea of the SD process is
       that you didn't get it!
       #Post#: 36393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 10, 2024, 2:50 pm
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       Please follow the process.
       #Post#: 36559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: Nom1
       Date: September 12, 2024, 4:46 am
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       --- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
       >
       > I think you should ask them for the PCN as we can't give full
       advice on reps without it. Also, the idea of the SD process is
       that you didn't get it!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I am aware of the SD process, hence I submitted the SD to
       Croydon.  I have also asked Croydon to provide a formal NOR.
       The overarching issue here, is Croydon correct in saying  they
       don't have to warn about i.e "No Right Turn" restrictions prior
       to the junction "There is no requirement for advance warning
       signs to be in place"
       I believe Croydon are incorrect.
       #Post#: 36571--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: September 12, 2024, 6:03 am
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       I have set out the legal process.
       Forget everything prior to TEC's revocation order.
       If you have not been provided with a PCN at any stage then the
       ball is now in the council's court. The process starts again.
       You will have a chance to put your argument to the council AFTER
       you receive the new PCN and not before.
       The council have until 3 October to serve the new PCN.
       So pl stop chasing them, at this stage it's counter-productive.
       If they fail to serve a PCN by 3 Oct. then you win by default,
       so why would you want to jog their memory?
       #Post#: 36594--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 12, 2024, 8:01 am
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       +1 to HCA.
       #Post#: 36596--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Croydon - 53j Failing to comply with a restriction on
       vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (Camera Enforcement)
   DIR By: Nom1
       Date: September 12, 2024, 8:05 am
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       Hi HC,
       All noted and understood thanks.
       For you information TEC have not issued a revocation order. When
       I contacted TEC they advised that Croydon had not lodged the PCN
       with them. Since then I have been emailing Croydon Parking
       directly, so I doubt I will received the PCN by October 3rd.
       Nom1
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