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       #Post#: 35656--------------------------------------------------
       PCN in box junction, Ilford Lane, Redbridge
   DIR By: monz87
       Date: September 4, 2024, 2:19 pm
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       - PCN from London Borough of Redbridge
       - Entering or stopping in a box junction when prohibited (camera
       enforcement)
       Hi guys,
       is there any chance of appeal on this?
       - The contravention was on 30/06/2024, the later is dated
       02/09/2024
       - On the website, there is only 2 images as below, no cctv
       footage. The image does not prove how long, if any duration, I
       was actually stopped on the box junction, nor does it
       demonstrate the circumstances as to what may have resulted me
       being there.
       - The actual image of the vehicle doesn't show the vehicle
       registration
       - The image that does show the registration, doesn't show any
       offence whatsoever, i.e. everything around it is black and
       nothing to show that registration is actually committing any
       offence, could be a totally different vehicle all together.
       Doesn't prove its part of this same offence
       This is a long term rental vehicle, so it may have gone to the
       company who would have denounced responsibility, hence why it
       may have taken extra time to come to me with a delayed issue
       date. I haven't had any communication from them so not sure if
       it could have directly come to me anyway, even if not, is there
       grounds of appeal based on the contravention date and current
       issue date and the points raised above, or anything else for
       that matter?
       Thanks
       I uploaded photos but it said it was full, I put the images with
       the code but the photos were not showing so have just put the
       links below.
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       #Post#: 35660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN in box junction
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 4, 2024, 2:40 pm
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       As yellow box contraventions go this is pretty solid and shows
       you why we have yellow boxes... You did keep moving but had to
       stop.
       There may be something in the processing and reissuing of the
       PCN.
       Think we've see this Ilford Lane box a few times - possible
       vague location.
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       #Post#: 35662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN in box junction
   DIR By: monz87
       Date: September 4, 2024, 2:57 pm
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       Oh you found the footage lol, I didn't find it! Even so, it
       doesn't actually show the registration on the footage due to the
       lighting...?
       #Post#: 35663--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN in box junction
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 4, 2024, 3:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: monz87 link ---
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       > Oh you found the footage lol, I didn't find it! Even so, it
       doesn't actually show the registration on the footage due to the
       lighting...?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The camera has a setting that takes a still image showing the
       plate so that won't wash.
       Add Ilford Lane, Redbridge to the title of your thread and see:
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       #Post#: 35768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN in box junction, Ilford Lane, Redbridge
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 5, 2024, 8:28 am
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       1. Please follow my advice in this post.
       2. Redbridge have a habit of sending off Charge Certificates so
       I would recommend making your formal representations close to
       but before the deadline. I have represented two members recently
       and they did the same, one of which was immediately won on that
       abuse of the statutory process.
       3. Show us the agreement as there may be flaws.
       #Post#: 35773--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN in box junction, Ilford Lane, Redbridge
   DIR By: monz87
       Date: September 5, 2024, 8:36 am
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       >
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       > 1. Please follow my advice in this post.
       >
       > 2. Redbridge have a habit of sending off Charge Certificates
       so I would recommend making your formal representations close to
       but before the deadline. I have represented two members recently
       and they did the same, one of which was immediately won on that
       abuse of the statutory process.
       >
       > 3. Show us the agreement as there may be flaws.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What is a charge certificate? Would it come after the 50%
       discount period? What is the actual abuse of statutory process
       which I could potentially appeal on?
       #Post#: 36223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN in box junction, Ilford Lane, Redbridge
   DIR By: monz87
       Date: September 9, 2024, 10:18 am
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