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       #Post#: 38626--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 27, 2024, 2:26 pm
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       [member=469]DolbyAtmos[/member]. Please explain what has
       happened here e.g. if you have made representations, has a
       Notice of Rejection been received? Also, if you have, please
       regularly update the thread.
       #Post#: 38684--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: DolbyAtmos
       Date: September 28, 2024, 5:53 am
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
       >
       > [member=469]DolbyAtmos[/member]. Please explain what has
       happened here e.g. if you have made representations, has a
       Notice of Rejection been received? Also, if you have, please
       regularly update the thread.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Hippocrates,
       So i have made the representation online on 24th September 2024
       about the De minimis 4 seconds , no Notice of Rejection received
       as of yet, will check post today if anything comes through.
       #Post#: 38739--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 28, 2024, 2:21 pm
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       Phew. Panic over. I wish you had posted a draft first as I would
       have advised you to mention the website issue. So now I have to
       amend my previous post.
       #Post#: 38740--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 28, 2024, 2:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
       >
       > I was just going to PM you to make representations but saw
       this this morning which is wholly wrong:
       >
       > The outstanding balance is £130.00
       > You can view details to pay for your PCN.
       > The period when you could contest this PCN has expired.
       >
       > Penalty Charge Notice: AF99049380
       > Vehicle registration: YT66HJA
       > Contravention date: Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 17:40
       > Contravention: Entering and stopping in a box junction when
       prohibited
       > Street: HIGH ROAD; GOODMAYES
       > Location:
       > Status: Representation Rejected
       >
       > The outstanding balance is £130.00
       >
       > Pay your Penalty Charge Notice now.
       >
       > I will advise in detail what to write to them and suggest you
       authorise me now. They did this in Case No. 2240175190 and they
       are wrong to do it again.
       >
       > Or send this immediately to:
       parkingandtrafficenforcement@redbridge.gov.uk
       >
       > Dear Sirs
       >
       > Ref: PCN: AF99049380  VRM: YT66HJA
       >
       > I refer to the said PCN dated 2nd September. Upon attempting
       to make representations today, I was presented with information
       that the period in which to contest the PCN has expired and that
       the status is Representation is Rejected.
       >
       > This is wholly unacceptable as the date of the PCN is 2nd
       September. You did exactly the same in Case No 2240175190 (which
       you lost) and I know this to be true as I am currently being
       advised by the same representative.  Therefore, as I am well
       within the 28 days in which to make a representation according
       to the law, I require you to rescind the current status
       forthwith and consider the following representations:
       >
       > 1. The contravention did not occur as the box junction is worn
       and the time stopped was de minimis.
       > 2. Your website challenge page expressly limits to one ground
       of representation which flies in the face of the information
       given on the PCN and the law.
       >
       > Therefore, in light of the  above, please cancel the PCN.
       >
       > P.S.: Please also register this as a formal complaint since
       your council is rather prone to making these unlawful demands
       for money.
       >
       > ****
       >
       > PM sent.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Now struck out. While I am prepared to help with this case, I
       cannot possibly accept being embarrassed in this way. OPs MUST
       update details/actions as appropriate.
       #Post#: 39381--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: DolbyAtmos
       Date: October 4, 2024, 4:56 am
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       Hello, Sorry i think we may have got our wires crossed, so
       apologies if my previous information was confusing.
       I received the official Notice of Rejection of representation
       letter a couple of days ago. I would be grateful if you can
       provide any advice on what further action i need to take.
       Notice of Rejection of Representation pg1
  HTML https://imgur.com/7wi9RUx
       Notice of Rejection of representaion pg2 - pg6
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/K9HyG92
       #Post#: 39389--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: October 4, 2024, 5:52 am
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       PM sent. Please show us the representations you made.
       #Post#: 39712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: DolbyAtmos
       Date: October 7, 2024, 12:33 pm
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       Hi, sorry for the late response. I attach a copy of the email
       receipt after i submitted my representation.
       PCN Representation Submission
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/DhNnpMj
       I kept it to " I believe the contravention did not occur due to
       de minimis of 3,5 to 4 seconds"
       #Post#: 39715--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 7, 2024, 1:17 pm
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       De minimus got to be lower than 3.5-4 secs to win this in my
       view - less than 3 secs we've seen in one council policy but
       that was ages ago.
       #Post#: 39727--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: October 7, 2024, 2:28 pm
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       I say Tribunal time.
       #Post#: 40044--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: DolbyAtmos
       Date: October 9, 2024, 3:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
       >
       > I say Tribunal time.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Okay, sounds like the next step ! Can you guide me to relevant
       things i need to do ?
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