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       31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: DolbyAtmos
       Date: September 4, 2024, 12:31 pm
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       My wife drove car into a box junction on High Road, Goodmayes.
       She was stopped in the box for 3.5 to 4 seconds from the time
       counter on the video. I am trying to see if there will be anyway
       to make a representation that it was a short space of time and
       also the box junction road marking is very worn out ?
       I have uploaded the video and the PCN for any of you
       knowledgeable members who can please help me out.
       PCN page 1
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/P56Ot2W.jpg
       PCN page 2
  HTML https://i.imgur.com/PeWlN5p.jpg
       Video Footage
  HTML https://vimeo.com/1006298946?share=copy
       #Post#: 35642--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 4, 2024, 12:44 pm
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       PCN number please. I will advise later re their website as there
       is a problem.
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       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: DolbyAtmos
       Date: September 4, 2024, 12:46 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       > PCN number please. I will advise later re their website as
       there is a problem.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Hippocrates, PCN number is AF99049380
       #Post#: 35645--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 4, 2024, 12:54 pm
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       Please go through the screens and screenshot the grounds. This
       one limits to one ground which contradicts the PCN and law.
       I will check some cases re this place.
       #Post#: 35659--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 4, 2024, 2:31 pm
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       --- Quote from: DolbyAtmos link ---
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       > [quote author=Hippocrates link=topic=3020.msg35642#msg35642
       date=1725471852]
       > PCN number please. I will advise later re their website as
       there is a problem.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hi Hippocrates, PCN number is AF99049380
       [/quote]
       Sorry I am a twit.  VRM I meant.
       #Post#: 35923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: DolbyAtmos
       Date: September 6, 2024, 12:20 pm
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       --- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
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       >
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       >
       > Please go through the screens and screenshot the grounds. This
       one limits to one ground which contradicts the PCN and law.
       >
       > I will check some cases re this place.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Please see the screen shots when i go onto the website to
       challenge the PCN. I think the last screenshot is the important
       one with the grounds.
       Screenshots
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/AJIPlif
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       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 12, 2024, 9:49 am
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       As they reoffer the discount, I would wait a bit.
       Draft to follow: de minimis (4 seconds) and website grounds. But
       probably leave the latter until later.
       #Post#: 36901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 15, 2024, 5:46 am
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       Count 28 days from the 4th September.
       #Post#: 38542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 27, 2024, 4:06 am
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       I was just going to PM you to make representations but saw this
       this morning which is wholly wrong:
       The outstanding balance is £130.00
       You can view details to pay for your PCN.
       The period when you could contest this PCN has expired.
       Penalty Charge Notice: AF99049380
       Vehicle registration: YT66HJA
       Contravention date: Tuesday, 27 Aug 2024 17:40
       Contravention: Entering and stopping in a box junction when
       prohibited
       Street: HIGH ROAD; GOODMAYES
       Location:
       Status: Representation Rejected
       The outstanding balance is £130.00
       Pay your Penalty Charge Notice now.
       I will advise in detail what to write to them and suggest you
       authorise me now. They did this in Case No. 2240175190 and they
       are wrong to do it again.
       Or send this immediately to:
       parkingandtrafficenforcement@redbridge.gov.uk
       Dear Sirs
       Ref: PCN: AF99049380  VRM: YT66HJA
       I refer to the said PCN dated 2nd September. Upon attempting to
       make representations today, I was presented with information
       that the period in which to contest the PCN has expired and that
       the status is Representation is Rejected.
       This is wholly unacceptable as the date of the PCN is 2nd
       September. You did exactly the same in Case No 2240175190 (which
       you lost) and I know this to be true as I am currently being
       advised by the same representative.  Therefore, as I am well
       within the 28 days in which to make a representation according
       to the law, I require you to rescind the current status
       forthwith and consider the following representations:
       1. The contravention did not occur as the box junction is worn
       and the time stopped was de minimis.
       2. Your website challenge page expressly limits to one ground of
       representation which flies in the face of the information given
       on the PCN and the law.
       Therefore, in light of the  above, please cancel the PCN.
       P.S.: Please also register this as a formal complaint since your
       council is rather prone to making these unlawful demands for
       money.
       ****
       PM sent.
       #Post#: 38616--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 31J - Entering and stopping in a box junction High Road,
       Goodmayes
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: September 27, 2024, 12:32 pm
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       [member=469]DolbyAtmos[/member] I have sent you two PMs.
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