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#Post#: 35560--------------------------------------------------
Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre main
DIR By: pirell
Date: September 3, 2024, 9:55 pm
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A letter was received to my address which was a county court
claim form made against my name from Euro Car Parks. As you can
see in the letter, this alleged PCN is from October 2020. I am
no longer the registered keeper of the Vehicle not since 2021,
and i cannot even remember where this alleged contravention took
place. I have googled The willows centre main and got a few
places. One is a shopping centre of some sort.
I have read the very helpful guidance of @b789 for similar posts
and aim to follow that. I saw that the advice is not to complete
the claim on the MCOL site, i could not log in anyway as the
information they provided as login details did not work.
So from the advice given i should use the paper forms attached
to acknowledge receipt, and my intention is to defend all of the
claim. with regards to the template letter to send, please
advise what i can use.
I have never had something like this, asking for a so called
debt 4 years later.
HTML https://i.ibb.co/ZXQPp6n/Euro-CPCCC.jpg
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#Post#: 35575--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre
main
DIR By: b789
Date: September 4, 2024, 4:01 am
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Welcome. Don’t use the paper forms if at all possible. You can
do the AoS by downloading the N9 response park form here:
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c45e568ed915d38a0611a61/n9-eng.pdf
Fill in the details online and type your name for the signature.
There is no need to print or scan anything. When you’ve
completed it, send the PDF as an attachment to:
claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself. Make sure
that you include the claim number in the subject field and
simply say in the body of the email to see attached N9
Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) for claim [number] in the case
of [PPC (claimant] v [your name] Claim [claim number].
Make sure you receive an auto-response email back from the CNBC
which should be almost immediately after you send it. If you
don’t receive the auto-response email, keep trying until you do.
If necessary, try using a different email agent.
With an issue date of 28th August, you must submit the AoS no
later than Monday 16th September. There is nothing to be gained
by delaying it. Once the AoS is filed, you then have until 4pm
on Monday 30th September to file your defence.
Get the AoS done for now. Once you have confirmed that it has
been done, we will assist with a defence.
As this claim has been filed by DCB Legal, there is a 99%
likelyhood that
N they will discontinue before any hearing as long as a defence
has been filed.
#Post#: 35694--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre
main
DIR By: pirell
Date: September 4, 2024, 9:09 pm
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--- Quote from: b789 link ---
>
> Welcome. Don’t use the paper forms if at all possible. You can
do the AoS by downloading the N9 response park form here:
>
>
HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c45e568ed915d38a0611a61/n9-eng.pdf
>
> Fill in the details online and type your name for the
signature. There is no need to print or scan anything. When
you’ve completed it, send the PDF as an attachment to:
claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself. Make sure
that you include the claim number in the subject field and
simply say in the body of the email to see attached N9
Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) for claim [number] in the case
of [PPC (claimant] v [your name] Claim [claim number].
>
> Make sure you receive an auto-response email back from the
CNBC which should be almost immediately after you send it. If
you don’t receive the auto-response email, keep trying until you
do. If necessary, try using a different email agent.
>
> With an issue date of 28th August, you must submit the AoS no
later than Monday 16th September. There is nothing to be gained
by delaying it. Once the AoS is filed, you then have until 4pm
on Monday 30th September to file your defence.
>
> Get the AoS done for now. Once you have confirmed that it has
been done, we will assist with a defence.
>
> As this claim has been filed by DCB Legal, there is a 99%
likelyhood that
> N they will discontinue before any hearing as long as a
defence has been filed.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks alot for the steps so far. I have sent the AOS as advised
and received an auto response.
#Post#: 35696--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre
main
DIR By: b789
Date: September 4, 2024, 10:56 pm
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Did you ever receive anything about this alleged parking event
back when ECP say it happened? Did you ever receive windscreen
Notice to Hirer (NtH) or a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK)? Did
you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) from DCB Legal?
Whilst you may not own the car anymore, that is not going to
absolve the driver of any liability for the alleged debt.,
assuming they can prove that the keeper was also the driver at
the time, However, the claim is against the Keeper but we don’t
know if they are able to hold the keeper liable under the
provisions of PoFA.
So, in order to be able to provide a defence, can you please
provide a timeline of the associated paperwork that was received
about this PCN. Exact dates, if possible, for the initial PCN.
We don’t need to know about any reminders or debt Cole for
letters. Just the initial PCN (NtD and/or NtK) and LoC. Was the
correct address on the vehicles V5C at the time of the alleged
parking event?
#Post#: 35710--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre
main
DIR By: pirell
Date: September 5, 2024, 4:12 am
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I honestly do not have any documentation from them dating back
that far.
I cannot find anything relating to this PCN. i was even
wondering if the coincindence in me receiving this PCN of 4
years ago is as a result me recently beating them at one other
case where i countersued them and they withdrew their case. Not
sure if they can be that petty or just pure coincidence.
I have moved home since 2020 and could have misplaced any
documentation initially sent, if one was sent.
#Post#: 35711--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre
main
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 5, 2024, 4:47 am
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--- Quote from: pirell link ---
>
> Not sure if they can be that petty or just pure coincidence.
>
--- End Quote ---
Euro Car Parks do have a habit of occasionally trawling their
back catalogue and issuing a bunch of claims. They did it during
COVID too, if I remember rightly.
#Post#: 35734--------------------------------------------------
Re: Euro car parks County court -no permit - The willows Centre
main
DIR By: b789
Date: September 5, 2024, 6:06 am
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Do you know or remember that the V5C for the vehicle had the
correct address at the time of the event? It is a fairly common
problem that people change address, update their drivers licence
and either assume that their V5C will be updated automatically
by the DVLA or simply never get around to changing it.
This is usually the reason that people get claims or worse,
default CCJs out of the blue.
Did you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC), as required by the PAP,
at least 30 days before the claim was issued?
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