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#Post#: 35250--------------------------------------------------
53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Torenaga
Date: September 1, 2024, 2:18 pm
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Hi Everyone,
My brother entered springfield road as he forgot something at
home. He lives on this road and he just wasn't paying attention
to the time.
I appealed to croydon council explaining the situation that he
lives on that road, as they would be able to tell from the NTO,
also explaining that he didn't know that he had to register his
car. I asked for discretion but they rejected.
Is there any other thing that i could go on with this fine?
This is the original NTO
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2qdAHva
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2qdwazf
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2qdAHSN
And this is the rejection leter
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2qdCptH
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2qdwaGV
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2qdwayy
Kind regards
#Post#: 35253--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 1, 2024, 2:36 pm
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Show us what you wrote please. NOR fails to mention the adj. can
extend time in which to appeal.
As before, website is rubbish:
View reasons
PCN number:CR20657780Contravention number:53j
Click your reason or search for it below
I wasn't aware of the rules
I was picking up/dropping off a passenger
it was an emergency
my satnav misdirected me
using cameras to catch drivers isn't fair
this is a hire car - the hirer should pay
Search all reasons
penalty exceeded amount
I never received the PCN
explain why my PCN was given
I'm challenging my PCN late because...
the CCTV system/operator made a mistake
I never received the PCN or Notice to Owner
I've already paid - in cash
I've already paid - by cheque
I've already paid - by credit card
I've already paid - by postal order
you've overcharged me
I've been away so didn't know the charge was increasing - can I
pay less?
I'm short of money - can I pay less?
I've changed address so didn't know the charge was increasing -
can I pay less?
**
Happy to do this one for you.
#Post#: 35256--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Torenaga
Date: September 1, 2024, 3:12 pm
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Hi [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]
My apologies, i didn't take a picture of the adjudicator form
they sent with the NTO rejection, which this time is one for a
moving traffic contravention. I will post that form up tomorrow.
The appeal was as follows.
HTML https://flic.kr/p/2qdD8Qr
Kind regards
#Post#: 35261--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 1, 2024, 3:43 pm
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--- Quote from: Torenaga link ---
>
> Hi [member=24]Hippocrates[/member]
> My apologies, i didn't take a picture of the adjudicator form
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=47]Torenaga[/member] there's no need to post the appeal
form, if Hippocrates is representing your brother then he'll
file the appeal online anyway.
#Post#: 35275--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Torenaga
Date: September 1, 2024, 4:46 pm
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Hi Cp.
Sorry, Just a misunderstanding on my behalf, as i thought that
hippocrates was referring to the rejection letter not including
the form for the adjudicator. My mistake.
Kind regards
#Post#: 43104--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: October 30, 2024, 5:50 am
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Job done, though not an exactly pleasant experience. 8)
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#Post#: 43109--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Torenaga
Date: October 30, 2024, 6:10 am
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thanks [member=24]Hippocrates[/member] 😎
#Post#: 43674--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 2, 2024, 3:52 pm
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I am taking this further.
#Post#: 43680--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: Pressman
Date: November 2, 2024, 4:40 pm
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Given the council's rejection of your initial appeal, consider
the following steps:
Review the Traffic Management Order (TMO): Analyse Croydon
Council's Traffic Management Order for Springfield Road.
Identify any exemptions for residents that may not have been
properly communicated, highlighting procedural unfairness.
Mitigating Circumstances: If escalating to an independent
adjudicator, argue that your brother's lack of awareness was a
reasonable mistake based on the expectation that a resident
should not need repeated administrative approval to access their
own street.
Proof of Residency: Provide evidence like utility bills to
support that your brother's entry was an honest mistake based on
a reasonable assumption of access rights as a resident.
Proportionality Assessment: Emphasise that the enforcement was
disproportionate, as your brother's mistake posed no safety risk
or inconvenience to others, arguing for a more lenient response.
Seek Formal Appeal Assistance: Hippocrates, whose expertise
lies in this field, or a solicitor specialising in traffic law
to review for procedural errors or further appeal options.
In appealing to the adjudicator, focus on equity,
proportionality, and your brother's genuine misunderstanding as
a resident.
My 2p.
#Post#: 43684--------------------------------------------------
Re: 53j- failing with a restriction entering pedestrian zone.
Croydon springfield ro
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 2, 2024, 5:14 pm
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Not necessary as the appeal was allowed on the basis of the
'adequacy' of the signage which did not, in this adjudicator's
opinion and based only upon the evidence adduced by the
authority in the circumstances of this case alone, meet the
requirements specified in LATOR.
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