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#Post#: 38080--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL(YBJ) - CODE 31, Wandsworth Rd/Bridgefoot/Albert
Embankment
DIR By: AoP
Date: September 24, 2024, 9:55 am
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In lieu of further input and as times running I thought I send
this!
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>
>
> Dear Transport for London,
>
> I challenge liability for PCN GX17671732 on the basis that the
alleged contravention did not occur.
>
> This is because whilst my vehicle was indeed observed stopping
within the hatched markings it was not due to the presence of
stationary vehicles.
>
> Both TFL’s and my own dash-cam video show that upon entering
the Yellow Box Junction whilst traversing a right hand manoeuvre
there were no stationary vehicles impeding my intended route
through the hatched markings and that there is ample space ahead
of my vehicle outside of the box. The stop was only necessitated
by an encroaching vehicle also wishing to turn right ahead of
me.
>
> My video footage may be viewed here:
[
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ln_5TxyNDQup3utoyEcus3GgASOluTli/view?usp=sharing]
>
> Simply by consulting the supporting documentation received
from TFL guides me to:
>
HTML https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/yellow-box-junctions
>
> * How to use a yellow box junction
> You can stop in a yellow box junction when turning right if
you are prevented from turning by oncoming traffic, or by other
vehicles waiting to turn right.
>
> Given the above; I remain extremely perplexed as of the
alleged contravention I have deemed to have transgressed.
>
> I hereby request in recognition of the statement of events
that the PCN should therefore be cancelled.
>
> Yours faithfully,
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tally ho...
#Post#: 38177--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL(YBJ) - CODE 31, Wandsworth Rd/Bridgefoot/Albert
Embankment
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 24, 2024, 3:05 pm
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You had room as PMB has stated.
#Post#: 38367--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL(YBJ) - CODE 31, Wandsworth Rd/Bridgefoot/Albert
Embankment
DIR By: AoP
Date: September 26, 2024, 3:55 am
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Familiar story – You wait ages for one DVD and two arrive in
sucession. Another DVD arrived from TFL yesterday!
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> You had room as PMB has stated.
>
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I did make reference to that point within the challenge I
submitted today.
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> Dear Transport for London,
>
> I challenge liability for PCN GX17671732 on the basis that the
alleged contravention did not occur.
>
> This is because whilst my vehicle was indeed observed stopping
within the hatched markings it was not due to the presence of
stationary vehicles.
>
> Both TFL’s and my own dash-cam video show that upon entering
the Yellow Box Junction whilst traversing a right hand manoeuvre
there were no stationary vehicles impeding my intended route
through the hatched markings and that there is ample space ahead
of my vehicle outside of the box.
>
> My video footage may be viewed here:
[
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ln_5TxyNDQup3utoyEcus3GgASOluTli/view?usp=sharing]
>
> Consulting the supporting documentation received from TFL
guides me to:
>
HTML https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/yellow-box-junctions
>
> * How to use a yellow box junction
> You can stop in a yellow box junction when turning right if
you are prevented from turning by oncoming traffic, or by other
vehicles waiting to turn right.
>
> Given the above; I remain extremely perplexed as of the
alleged contravention I have been deemed to have transgressed.
>
> I hereby request in recognition of the above statement of
events that the PCN should be cancelled.
>
> Yours respectfully,
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I included the 'right hand turn' waffle for my own clarity tbh.
I use this junction frequently and would hope any rejection
references that point.
#Post#: 38507--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL(YBJ) - CODE 31, Wandsworth Rd/Bridgefoot/Albert
Embankment
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 26, 2024, 2:52 pm
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[member=2606]AoP[/member] let me know if you get a rejection by
tagging me on here, all TFL PCNs can be beaten at present.
#Post#: 41061--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL(YBJ) - CODE 31, Wandsworth Rd/Bridgefoot/Albert
Embankment
DIR By: AoP
Date: October 16, 2024, 11:11 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Rejection email arrived yesterday. Apparently TFL maintain that
I entered the box with no clear exit available. 'Right turn' not
considered even though road markings suggest otherwise (albeit
without the legend "Turn Right") so perhaps not conclusive.
Rejection received:
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1elly2Ji-f47HsHlb8wuVxKQrjGArYGKX/view?usp=sharing
Historic appeals focusing on 'space outside box', 'exit clear on
entry' before a tribunal hearing would be most welcomed!
#Post#: 41287--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL(YBJ) - CODE 31, Wandsworth Rd/Bridgefoot/Albert
Embankment
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 17, 2024, 5:12 pm
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[member=2606]AoP[/member] I'll drop you a PM. The key point is
to appeal immediately so that the outstanding penalty does not
increase, in order to do this TFL must receive the scheduling
email from the tribunal within the discount period.
#Post#: 42185--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL(YBJ) - CODE 31, Wandsworth Rd/Bridgefoot/Albert
Embankment
DIR By: AoP
Date: October 24, 2024, 11:03 am
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>
> 24 October 2024 Cancelled
> The Penalty Charge Notice has been cancelled.
>
> 24 October 2024 Appeal Non Contested
> TfL are not contesting an appeal submitted for this PCN.
>
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I had planned mince & onion for tea, but now it's going to be
steak & a few bubbles :D
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