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Close Pass
DIR By: POLICE999
Date: August 30, 2024, 3:51 am
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Got this sent by police as close pass. camera lens makes it look
closer than really is.
From kerb to centre line is 3m . The near side wheel is just 8"
from centre line. I did have dashcam footage but was overwriten
as was two week before came in post. my car is 5 foot wide and
even if he was in centre of road when i passed that would still
be 1.5m away. include a few photos of road. I am going to court
in feb to defend what are you views.
many thanks
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: POLICE999
Date: August 30, 2024, 3:53 am
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upload folder full could not upload any pics
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 30, 2024, 4:04 am
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You'll need to use Imgur or another 3rd party site to share
images.
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: 666
Date: August 30, 2024, 4:15 am
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OP, can you please stick either to Imperial or metric?
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: August 30, 2024, 4:15 am
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--- Quote from: POLICE999 link ---
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> my car is 5 foot wide
>
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That's pretty unlikely, very few modern cars are anywhere near
that narrow, even a 1970's mk2 Escort was wider than that. Also
best to stick to one set of units, you've not shared anything
(and probably didn't read the 'read this first' sticky which
tells you how to), but to be 1.5m away on a 3m wide lane with
the cycle in the centre of the lane your nearside would have to
be at least 30cm (half the width of a typical bike) the OTHER
side of the centre line.
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: POLICE999
Date: August 30, 2024, 4:52 am
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sorry my car is 1780cm wide and my nearside wheel was 200cm from
centre line. the road was 3m to centre line even if you take off
the 200cm from the 3m . how can anysay i did not give room to a
single cycleist ?
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 30, 2024, 4:57 am
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--- Quote from: POLICE999 link ---
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> how can anysay i did not give room to a single cycleist ?
>
--- End Quote ---
Without seeing any of the footage and/or images, we can't really
say anything either way. If you want any advice we really could
do with seeing the images, and assuming they're stills from a
video, ideally the video.
--- Quote from: POLICE999 link ---
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> sorry my car is 1780cm wide and my nearside wheel was 200cm
from centre line. the road was 3m to centre line even if you
take off the 200cm from the 3m .
>
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I think you may need to double check these numbers - 1780cm is
58ft!
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: August 30, 2024, 5:05 am
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--- Quote from: POLICE999 link ---
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> sorry my car is 1780cm wide and my nearside wheel was 200cm
from centre line. the road was 3m to centre line even if you
take off the 200cm from the 3m . how can anysay i did not give
room to a single cycleist ?
>
--- End Quote ---
Just about all of your figures are out by a factor of 10.
I'm assuming that you meant that your car was 20cm from the
centre line and not 200cm.
If the road was 300cm wide, your car is 178cm wide and you were
20cm from the centre line then even if the cyclist was tight up
against the side of the road, the furthest you could have been
from them is 102cm.
Allowing for the cyclist to be even 10cm from the side of the
road then you must have been closer than 1m when you passed.
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: August 30, 2024, 5:16 am
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--- Quote ---
> sorry my car is 1780cm wide and my nearside wheel was 200cm
from centre line. the road was 3m to centre line even if you
take off the 200cm from the 3m . how can anysay i did not give
room to a single cycleist ?
--- End Quote ---
Do you mean 200cm or 20cm?
If your nearside wheel was 200cm from the centre line
(presumably of the left of it) the cyclist had just one metre.
If it was 20cm the cyclist had 2.8m.
Anyway, the Highway Code suggests leaving at least 1.5m when
travelling at speeds up to 30mph, more than that if travelling
faster. Could you clarify the distances involved because I'm
somewhat confused.
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Re: Close Pass
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: August 30, 2024, 5:53 am
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--- Quote from: POLICE999 link ---
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> my nearside wheel was 200cm from centre line.
>
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Which side of it, there is a 400cm (or more likely 40cm
difference (plus width of the line) between one side of it and
the other!
Your descriptions so far are as clear as mud.
We know the width you have given for the lane (location on
Google and we can measure it)
You've given a width for the car but don't say if hat includes
mirrors or not.
You've given a description for the position of your car which
can be one of two places.
We've no idea where the cyclist was.
Just throwing out numbers is of little help.
The Guidance is 1.5m, but you can still be convicted of careless
driving further away than that if your driving fell below the
standard of a careful and competent driver.
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