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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: August 28, 2024, 11:53 am
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To be clear, he must name the driver. Some people have assumed
your friend was the driver but that may not be correct. He has
to name the driver, even if it means more trouble for him (if he
doesn’t name the driver he commits the s 172 offence; and naming
the wrong driver is also a more serious offence).
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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: f111
Date: August 28, 2024, 12:12 pm
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Thank you. He was the driver - will tell him to fill in the
correct details and hope for the best. Can only give the advice
and hope he takes it!
I'll update here if he shares the outcome with me.
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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: MrChips
Date: September 6, 2024, 2:26 pm
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Another notorious example (albeit in Australia)
HTML http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7967982.stm
#Post#: 36228--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: Logician
Date: September 9, 2024, 10:38 am
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An example of a failed wizard wheeze, note that the judge said
that if they had not pleaded guilty he would have sent them to
jail:
£11,000 bill for couple who invented a Bulgarian to avoid
speeding fine
By Nigel Bunyan
(Filed: 15/10/2005)
A chartered surveyor and his wife concocted an elaborate plan,
complete with a fictitious Bulgarian motorist, in order to avoid
paying two £60 speeding fines, a court heard yesterday.
Cathryn Bromley, 42, even flew to the former Soviet bloc country
so that her alter ego, Konstantin Koscov, could send a postcard
to her husband, Stuart.
The couple were caught out when a police officer became
suspicious and managed to prove, courtesy of the British embassy
in Sofia, that Mr Koscov existed only in their imagination.
The Bromleys decided on the scam after their blue Mercedes was
twice caught speeding by a camera in Hyde, Greater Manchester,
last January. Instead of paying the two £60 fines and accepting
six points on his licence, Mr Bromley, 43, claimed that neither
he nor his wife had been driving.
The guilty party, he maintained, was Mr Koscov, a former
employee, who had since returned to his native Bulgaria.
Police believe that the Bromleys were convinced the matter would
go away. However, they had not reckoned on the tenacity of Pc
Mark Beales. When he began to investigate in more detail the
couple decided that they needed more ''evidence''.
Mrs Bromley, who is also a surveyor, bought a ticket for a
1,400-mile return flight to Sofia where she wrote and posted Mr
Koscov's postcard before catching the next flight back. She was
at home in Broadbottom, Glossop, Derbys, when the postcard,
featuring scenes from Bulgaria, landed on the doormat. It read:
"Many thanks for the opportunity to work in your office. I
enjoyed the experience and would gladly return the favour,
unfortunately my car is nowhere as good as yours but it will get
you about! 'Many thanks again and look forward to my next trip.
Regards Konstantin Koscov."
Unfortunately for the Bromleys, they were a little too keen to
present this new, seemingly incontrovertible piece of
''evidence'' to Pc Beales.
''We became suspicious because they were being too helpful in
providing this postcard to corroborate their story,'' he said
outside court. He also thought that Mr Koscov's vocabulary did
not quite ring true and made the inquiries that would prove that
the couple were lying.
Once the Bromleys knew they had been rumbled they confessed.
Yesterday at Manchester Crown Court they were fined a total of
£9,200 and ordered to pay £1,900 costs after admitting two
counts of perverting the course of justice.
Passing sentence, Judge Bernard Lever said: "The best place to
hit people like these is in their pockets. Had they not pleaded
guilty, I would have almost certainly sent them to prison."
As a result of his court appearance Stuart Bromley is being
investigated by his professional body, the Royal Institution of
Chartered Surveyors. An RICS spokesman said he faced possible
expulsion and a fine of up to £5,000.
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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: f111
Date: September 12, 2024, 11:37 am
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Hi All,
I wanted to follow up for those who'd kindly helped previously
and also in case anyone else is in the same predicament.
He took the advice and gave his details. They responded with the
attached letter.
It looks like they’ve invited him to court. Does the forum have
any advice re this hearing? Should he attend? Does anyone have
experience of these and likely outcome? I’ve told him a
disqualification is definitely possible.
Any and all advice appreciated. He’s a decent guy who done
something stupid.
If I remember correctly, there was another case like his on the
forum when I first posted and their hearing was in September.
I’ll go and look for that post now in case they’ve updated.
Thanks all
EDIT: Letter attached - From the other forum posts, I've
realised this is Single Justice Procedure Notice.
HTML https://imgbox.com/gallery/edit/MD6M2NPRpU/53XgdYWm56hIj0Bs
#Post#: 36633--------------------------------------------------
Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 12, 2024, 11:49 am
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--- Quote ---
> PS - I've tried attaching the letter (only small file - about
500kb) but its telling me upload folder is full. Happy to still
upload it if needed and anyone knows another way.
--- End Quote ---
You'll need to use a third party site like Imgur to upload
images.
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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: f111
Date: September 12, 2024, 1:17 pm
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> [quote]PS - I've tried attaching the letter (only small file -
about 500kb) but its telling me upload folder is full. Happy to
still upload it if needed and anyone knows another way.
--- End Quote ---
You'll need to use a third party site like Imgur to upload
images.
[/quote]
Thanks, I've just attached the letter to the post now.
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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: September 12, 2024, 1:45 pm
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He’ll have to wait for the actual SJPN to see what is charged,
or does he have that and you’ve not shared it?
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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: f111
Date: September 12, 2024, 1:48 pm
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--- Quote from: The Rookie link ---
>
> He’ll have to wait for the actual SJPN to see what is charged,
or does he have that and you’ve not shared it?
>
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Looks like what he was sent is the the SJPN (didn't realise this
is what the letter was called). I've attached to the original
post now too.
HTML https://imgbox.com/gallery/edit/MD6M2NPRpU/53XgdYWm56hIj0Bs
Thanks
EDIT: Just to add, he did reply and give his driver details when
i first advised after the post here. This was sent via recorded
delivery.
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Re: Speeding Offence - driver details 'nomination rejected'
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: September 12, 2024, 2:37 pm
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He should respond to the SJPN pleading guilty to speeding and
not guilty to he other charge.
He should be sentenced in accordance with the guidelines which
suggest a fine of half a week's net income, reduced by a third
for his guilty plea, and three points. He will also pay a
surcharge of 40% of the fine and costs of around £90.
He should also thank his lucky stars.
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