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#Post#: 34684--------------------------------------------------
PCN received for parking in family bay with child
DIR By: syd16
Date: August 27, 2024, 6:24 am
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I received the attached PCN from MET Parking Services when
visiting TopGolf Chigwell last weekend. The alleged
contravention is for breaching the terms and conditions for
parking in a Parent & Toddler bay, specifically their
photographs to evidence that I did not have a child car seat in
my car.
The fact is my family were coming in two cars to the centre and
my 5-year old niece decided to come in with us and we
transferred her booster seat into my car and then put it back
into their parent's car when we arrived. I've never come across
an instance like this where they require evidence of a child car
seat in order to park in a family bay but I used the bay legally
and even had a booster seat on arrival.
I want to ask is this legally enforceable and any advice on
appealing this?
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Re: PCN received for parking in family bay with child
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: August 27, 2024, 6:28 am
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Dear GOD 'modify' (edit) that post, remove PCN and reg number
ASAFP!
Then remove bit that identifies the driver, as per the read this
first sticky!
Plan A - complain to the landowner, especially as this would
have been issued by a 'boots on the ground' operative and may
even be self ticketing.
I think you're saying the car was parked with a toddler on board
and the car seat then moved so the operative would see no child
seat?
Notice issued to windscreen or by post? (if by post maybe they
saw no toddler return to the car).
Too many relevant facts missing, we can't guess.
#Post#: 34687--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received for parking in family bay with child
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 27, 2024, 6:29 am
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I've removed those images - as well as sharing the PCN and Reg
number (which isn't advised), you left your full name and home
address showing!
#Post#: 34688--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received for parking in family bay with child
DIR By: syd16
Date: August 27, 2024, 6:43 am
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--- Quote from: DWMB2 link ---
>
> I've removed those images - as well as sharing the PCN and Reg
number (which isn't advised), you left your full name and home
address showing!
>
--- End Quote ---
Sorry I forgot to black out personal details although admins
here have previously asked for PCN and reg number!
Updated photos here:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/DMxGhmt/1.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/dkhzdQ4/2.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/gg4xbDz/3.jpg
HTML https://i.ibb.co/z7FS6x4/PHOTO-2024-08-27-11-21-42.jpg
--- Quote from: The Rookie link ---
>
> Plan A - complain to the landowner, especially as this would
have been issued by a 'boots on the ground' operative and may
even be self ticketing.
>
> I think you're saying the car was parked with a toddler on
board and the car seat then moved so the operative would see no
child seat?
> Notice issued to windscreen or by post? (if by post maybe they
saw no toddler return to the car).
>
> Too many relevant facts missing, we can't guess.
>
--- End Quote ---
That is right car was parked with toddler on board and car seat
was removed. The operative would have noticed no car seat and
the Notice was issued by post there was nothing on the
windscreen.
#Post#: 34691--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received for parking in family bay with child
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 27, 2024, 7:09 am
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--- Quote from: syd16 link ---
>
> Sorry I forgot to black out personal details although admins
here have previously asked for PCN and reg number!
>
--- End Quote ---
You may be confusing the Council Tickets forum (where sharing
PCN and reg is required), with the Private Parking forum (where
sharing those details would allow someone to submit a false
appeal on your behalf). Each section of the forum has a 'READ
THIS FIRST' guide at the top, which provides guidance on the
information you should share.
As above, speaking to Nuffield would be a wise first step here.
#Post#: 34696--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received for parking in family bay with child
DIR By: The Rookie
Date: August 27, 2024, 7:38 am
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Your post still reveals the drivers relationship to the keeper,
please modify! Use 'the driver' no I, we, him or even the dog.
If the Notice was issued by post the operative may have seen the
driver return to the car with no toddler?
#Post#: 34714--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN received for parking in family bay with child
DIR By: b789
Date: August 27, 2024, 9:09 am
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Where does it state anything about a booster or baby seat? All
the NtK states is that the reason for the issue is “parent &
toddler bay”. WTF does that mean?
What evidence have they provided to back up their demand for
payment? The burden of proof is on MET to prove that there was
no eligible “toddler” with the vehicle when it entered and left
the parking spot.
The fact that there is no baby/booster seat is not evidence of
anything. Don’t go screwing this up by inadvertently giving them
something that they don’t have.
Plan A, the keeper or driver need to get the landowner or
whoever was stupid enough to contract the equally stupid MET to
get the PCN cancelled.
The NtK is PoFA compliant so there’s no advantage to not
identifying the driver. If Plan A fails, the keeper appeals this
as simply as possible. MET are too intellectually malnourished
to accept any appeal. Just get the POPLA code.
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