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Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: Firestone
Date: August 25, 2024, 7:17 pm
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Was visiting Bristol recently with a group of people and had to
drive there. Most regrettably on the way to a museum my car was
spotted in a bus lane by an Eagle eyed camera operator and they
now want £70 for this alleged infringement. I was so careful to
avoid a wrong turn and a penalty but it happened. What is a
‘Bus Gate’? Are they lawful? I don’t recall any entry signs.
Advice much welcome please/
Link for viewing PCN:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/7f58W7h
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 26, 2024, 1:44 am
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For meaningful advice please to have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and post all sides of the PCN (redacting only yr name &
address), the video (which is the evidence) and a GSV link to
the location.
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: d612
Date: August 26, 2024, 3:48 am
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See the no entry signs to non-bus traffic in street view on the
approach instructing all other traffic to turn left.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/NSAGqeF11SLbeFnU7
and again thanks to google street view at the actual point of
the bus gate
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/yZR73s4EWRVGcaMD8
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: Firestone
Date: September 1, 2024, 6:15 pm
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Sorry for the delay. This the link for the 2nd page of the PCN.
Unfortumately the system doesn't seem to allow me to edit my
first post so that i can add the link neatly below the first
link so that both links are together:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/6TmoVzR
Unfortunately there is no online facility at the council with
link to either view or download the video. Are they are under
an obligation to provide this legally? At the moment as per
the form, I have to put a request in writing, to be able to view
the video of the incident at their offices in Bristol, subject
to facilities being available and during office hours. This is
100+ miles away from where i live, hardly practicle. I recall
with Richmond, I was able to remotely view their evidence from
their website with a few mouse clicks. Not good
Links have already been provided for sign viewing.
Thank-you
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 1, 2024, 6:28 pm
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[member=2189]Firestone[/member] as per the guidance here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/,<br
/>the number plate should not be redacted, please post it up.
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: Firestone
Date: September 1, 2024, 7:11 pm
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Thank-you
Here is the link with the number plate showing on the PCN.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/NGhPtOP
Thank-You
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: Firestone
Date: September 2, 2024, 5:41 pm
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No one has looked at this subject of mine since adding all the
extra required infomation late last night and the subject was
rapidly moving down page 2 witgout any replies.
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 2, 2024, 6:25 pm
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--- Quote from: Firestone link ---
>
> No one has looked at this subject of mine since adding all the
extra required infomation late last night and the subject was
rapidly moving down page 2 witgout any replies.
>
--- End Quote ---
I had a look on their website using your details (PCN No, and
car reg.) and there is, indeed, no video, just photos, none of
which show you passing a bus lane or bus gate sign. Only the
'Bus Gate' markings on the carriageway show you have passed into
a Buses Only street.
However, if one looks at GSV, there is an advance sign giving
notice of a buses only restriction ahead, then there are the Bus
Gate signs, one each side of the street, so I think you will
struggle to overturn this PCN. To present a reasonable case for
an appeal you have to explain how you came to ignore both the
advance sign and the actual Bus Gate signs in broad daylight. So
what can you tell us ?
As for the PCN, what you have shown so far, (Pages 1 & 2) seems
OK, but there may be a fatal error anywhere that makes it void,
so please post pages 3 and 4 if you want us fully to inspect it.
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: Firestone
Date: September 5, 2024, 3:34 pm
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have any memories of the signs.
I do remember seeing something saying 'Bus Gate' printed in
white on the road. I just don't know Bristol and was a visiter
there that day. It's 100 miles away, so not worth going back to
have look at signs etc
Here are pages 3 & 4 of the PCN:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/YuPTPrm
HTML https://imgur.com/a/rsnSwbe
Thank-You
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Re: Driving in a bus lane - Bristol
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 5, 2024, 4:28 pm
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It would seem, from your narrative, that apart from not being
familiar with Bristol, you are also not familiar with the Bus
Gate sign, correct ? The contravention seems to be made out, so
to appeal to an adjudicator, you need a technical appeal, hence
looking at all pages of the PCN, but I don't see any errors.
Someone else may do so, so wait a bit but don't miss the
deadline for paying the discounted amount.
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