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       3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: EmmaP
       Date: August 21, 2024, 5:22 am
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       in a 20mph zone, I can't tell from the images if I am speeding
       as they are stills. Is there any defence? I had a speed limiter
       fitted after the second time but it doesn't always work. This
       will now be 6 points. After years of not having any, it is down
       to the new 20mph limits on major roads which give the illusion
       you are going slower than you actually are. This one was 24mph -
       I don't drive fast or dangerously, so having this happen 3 times
       is most frustrating and worrying as I need my car for work. ANy
       help would be much appreciated!
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       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: 666
       Date: August 21, 2024, 5:56 am
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       --- Quote from: EmmaP link ---
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       > in a 20mph zone, I can't tell from the images if I am speeding
       as they are stills. Is there any defence? I had a speed limiter
       fitted after the second time but it doesn't always work. This
       will now be 6 points. After years of not having any, it is down
       to the new 20mph limits on major roads which give the illusion
       you are going slower than you actually are. This one was 24mph -
       I don't drive fast or dangerously, so having this happen 3 times
       is most frustrating and worrying as I need my car for work. ANy
       help would be much appreciated!
       >
       > NIP here:
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Emma
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       #Post#: 34022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: August 21, 2024, 6:14 am
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       I've removed the Google Drive link until the OP has redacted
       their personal details.
       #Post#: 34026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: August 21, 2024, 6:20 am
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       --- Quote from: EmmaP link ---
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       > ... I had a speed limiter fitted after the second time but it
       doesn't always work...
       >
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       The following is a trite answer but it isn't any less true for
       that.
       Your speed limiter should be what you do with your right foot
       depending on what you observe with your eyes.
       If you rely on any other kind of "speed limiter" you run a very
       real risk of getting caught again and again and getting more and
       more points...
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       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: EmmaP
       Date: August 21, 2024, 7:07 am
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       redacted personal details - new link
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       #Post#: 34035--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: August 21, 2024, 7:25 am
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       You don't seem to have much by way of a defence. I take it that
       since you have already committed two offences but have only
       three points that you have done a speed awareness course
       recently?
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       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: EmmaP
       Date: August 21, 2024, 7:37 am
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       Yes I did a course in January. I am finding the 20 mph on a
       major road very hard to stick to and I really don't know what to
       do about it. No doubt someone will say go slower but when you
       are on a major road such as the A23 or A205 and there is no
       other traffic around it is very easy to let the speed creep up.
       I always do about 15mph on minor and residential roads. I am not
       a fast driver its just these new limits!
       #Post#: 34041--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: August 21, 2024, 8:19 am
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       Use a manual speed limiter then and set it to 20 when you get
       onto such a road.
       Automatic limiters are OK as assistance, not so much to rely on
       as they are far to error prone.  That's not the fault of the car
       manufacturer but the countrywide databases.  We have three
       different makes (not brands, makes) of car in the family and
       they all have the same errors in the same places.
       #Post#: 34056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: Lodesman
       Date: August 21, 2024, 11:21 am
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       --- Quote from: The Rookie link ---
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       > Use a manual speed limiter then and set it to 20 when you get
       onto such a road.
       > Automatic limiters are OK as assistance, not so much to rely
       on as they are far to error prone.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I only use the manual speed limiter (when needed) and disabled
       the automatic version after the onboard camera detected a 30 mph
       sign on a side road and applied the brakes aggressively when I
       was going a perfectly legal 60 mph. It gave me the fright of my
       life (not to mention the poor chap following me at the time who
       managed to brake and avoid me).
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       Re: 3rd time caught speeding in less than a year 
   DIR By: EmmaP
       Date: August 21, 2024, 11:47 am
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       Adding to this I had Waze on and can prove it. Waze always gives
       you an alert when approaching a speed camera so I’m wondering
       whether this recorded speed is accurate- how can I find out?
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