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Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: buscalls
Date: August 19, 2024, 8:06 am
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Hi
I have received a Charge Certificate from London Borough of
Redbridge for a PCN that was never issued!
I parked in Adelaide Road, Ilford IG1 where first hour is free
but still require ticket display. However the parking machine
was out of order and my mobile was out of battery. So I went to
a couple of nearby shops to see if I can get my mobile charged
to call RingGo but no one had my charger type.
I returned to the vehicle to leave since I couldn't call to
register and found a parking attendant taking photos. I
explained the above however the PA started getting aggressive eg
this isn't your dad's space that you can just park here!
Charming.
I drove off without any PCN being issued or affixed to my
vehicle (as shown on the council photo). One photo also shows
rear of my vehicle driving off!
Please let me know your thoughts on how best I should deal with
this. PCN link below. Thanks
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Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 19, 2024, 8:27 am
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The council is allowed to issue a postal PCN saying it was in
preparation but was not served as you left the scene. I take it
nothing was received at the registered keeper's address?
Is the address on the charge certificate accurate?
Not getting the PCN means statutory recourse to getting this
reset but you have to wait for the order for recovery. See
process:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
Sometimes they mess up and send a notice to owner instead of a
postal PCN but we don't know.
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Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: buscalls
Date: August 19, 2024, 9:33 am
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No nothing was received.
Yes address on charge certificate is correct.
So I have to wait for order for recovery?
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Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 19, 2024, 12:27 pm
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--- Quote from: buscalls link ---
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> No nothing was received.
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> Yes address on charge certificate is correct.
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> So I have to wait for order for recovery?
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Yes - to stay in process this is the correct thing to do but we
recommend calling the Traffic Enforcement Centre at intervals to
check if the debt is registered as you don't want the OFR to go
astray.
The charge certificate refers to a PCN not an NTO so the chances
are they correctly sent a postal driveaway PCN (known as a reg
10 PCN).
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Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: buscalls
Date: August 20, 2024, 5:23 am
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I never received a PCN in the post so how can it be assumed they
correctly sent a reg 10 PCN?
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Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 20, 2024, 5:48 am
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--- Quote from: buscalls link ---
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> I never received a PCN in the post so how can it be assumed
they correctly sent a reg 10 PCN?
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I said they refer to a PCN and not an NTO on the charge
certificate. But don't worry about this as the focus is to get
the PCN reissued through the witness statement process at which
point you'll find out what they sent and whether it's worth
making a challenge on any aspect.
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Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: buscalls
Date: August 20, 2024, 7:06 am
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I intended to write to the council to provide the context shared
here and raise complaint against the rude parking attendant.
Also to not let the matter escalate. Should I still do that?
#Post#: 33911--------------------------------------------------
Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 20, 2024, 7:14 am
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Dealing with complaint to the Council comes after the matter of
the PCN has been resolved. Concentrate on the due process for
that first.
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Re: Redbridge borough, parking without payment, Ilford
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 20, 2024, 9:07 am
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I parked in Adelaide Road, Ilford IG1 where first hour is free
but still require ticket display.
Not if the transaction is done by RingGo because it's impossible
to display anything.
The contravention is 'did not pay'. GSV is dated and the traffic
sign isn't in the photos. What does it actually state?
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