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       Haringey, 46 stopped on red route - Ferndale Road N15
   DIR By: september
       Date: August 18, 2024, 6:36 pm
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       Hello,
       I was wondering what my chances of defence, if any.
       I was on the red route and went out of my car to help a friend
       across the road loading his car. I just turned around and
       noticed two wardens at my car. I immediately drove away but the
       wardens told me the ticket will follow by post and indeed it
       did. I am not sure when they took the photos, if this was
       already whilst the car was moving away.
       The PCN mentions the time of observation from 12:38 to 12:38,
       the timestamp on the pictures are 12:37:51 and 12:38:30
       respectively. (The second one has me in the car)
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       Many thanks in advance for any advice that can help!
       #Post#: 33757--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Haringey, 46 stopped on red route - Ferndale Road N15
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 18, 2024, 6:43 pm
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       Please read this, and update your post accordingly: -
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       So, looking at the GSV view, I take it that you parked on the
       double-red lines. These mean "No Stopping" 24x7, but it does
       seem you were a bit unfortunate that two CEOs passed by. No
       observation is required for this contravention.
       Anyway when we see the PCN, more advice can be given.
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       Re: Haringey, 46 stopped on red route - Ferndale Road N15
   DIR By: september
       Date: August 18, 2024, 6:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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       > Please read this, and update your post accordingly: -
       >
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       >
       > So, looking at the GSV view, I take it that you parked on the
       double-red lines. These mean "No Stopping" 24x7, but it does
       seem you were a bit unfortunate that two CEOs passed by. No
       observation is required for this contravention.
       >
       > Anyway when we see the PCN, more advice can be given.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for the reply. I did try to embedd a drive link but it
       didn't work. I suppose I'll try with the direct link here:
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       Re: Haringey, 46 stopped on red route - Ferndale Road N15
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 18, 2024, 7:27 pm
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       As I thought, PCN issued under the Traffic Management Act 2004,
       that introduced the power for a council to issue a postal PCN in
       cases of "drive-aways", where a PCN was in course of
       preparation, but the driver returned and drove off before it
       could be served. The PCN goes to the name and address on the V5C
       Registration Certificate.
       How long were you parked there ?  I have to say, I can't see
       anything leaping out as an appeal argument, maybe others can.
       #Post#: 33764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Haringey, 46 stopped on red route - Ferndale Road N15
   DIR By: september
       Date: August 18, 2024, 7:37 pm
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       Probably over a minute.
       Anyway thanks for your help, I appreciate it.
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