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#Post#: 4204--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Charsiu
Date: August 31, 2023, 6:58 am
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Hi All,
Enforcement Notice arrived 20 minutes ago:
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#Post#: 4365--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 4, 2023, 5:13 pm
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Your images aren't loading, please host them on imgur.com and
copy the BB codes on here.
#Post#: 4389--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 5, 2023, 12:06 am
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As cp says. WE need to see the EN. Without seeing it, I would
advise putting in exactly the same representations again which
you now require them to consider as formal representations. Make
absolutely no comment whatsoever on their initial rejection for
obvious reasons. If they produce the same again, the
adjudicator will be on your side.
#Post#: 4413--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Charsiu
Date: September 5, 2023, 8:07 am
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The images were loading fine when I posted the other day
HTML https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji52.png,
this is definitely
working right now:
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height=1168]
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#Post#: 4438--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 5, 2023, 2:51 pm
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More nonsense. The law:
2)An enforcement notice must state—
(a)the amount of the penalty charge payable;
(b)the grounds on which the council believe that a penalty
charge is payable with respect to the vehicle;
(c)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the
period of 28 days beginning with the date on which the
enforcement notice is served;
Would you like me to deal with this one for you to get it
cancelled now and/or at the Tribunal?
HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1996/9/schedule/1/enacted
This is total incompetence.
#Post#: 4498--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Charsiu
Date: September 6, 2023, 11:24 am
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Hi Hippocrates,
Thank you for offering to represent me on this PCN, please can
you let me know what I need to do next?
Thanks!
#Post#: 4539--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 7, 2023, 3:03 am
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I have lost the images of the Enforcement Notice but I remember
what it contained. If you want me to represent you now or at
the Tribunal tis up to you. But, here is my draft:
Dear Sirs
Ref: PCN...........VRM..........
I acknowledge receipt of the Enforcement Notice and refer to all
correspondence in this matter.
I reiterate my previous "informal challenge" which I require you
to be treated as my formal representations. Furthermore, the
Enforcement Notice is also a nullity and void because it
incorrectly states the period of payment. Therefore, I make a
collateral challenge in respect of this too.
Finally, some of the grounds included on the said notice are
irrelevant since they do not pertain to this legislation.
Should you not agree to cancel the PCN, I shall not hesitate to
take the matter to adjudication since both documents clearly
demonstrate fundamental and substantial departures from the
mandatory and statutory framework.
Yours faithfully
Name
Address
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Please can you repost the EN? PM sent. Received so I have
modified as above. And sent another e mail. This is
incredulous! If they are daft enough to pursue this to the
Tribunal, costs may well be on the table even if they DNC.
#Post#: 4648--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 8, 2023, 3:31 pm
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Taken charge of this one.
#Post#: 7945--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: October 21, 2023, 6:28 am
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I think handkerchiefs are on order for this one. Can't wait. ;D
The NOR should be in the Guinness Book of Records: threatens an
Enforcement Notice, two different expressions of the 28 day
periods and, last but not least, includes a 21 days period as
well. :-X
What did Jackson J say?: "Playing fast and loose" etc.
#Post#: 8390--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Driving in a Bus Lane within the restricted period.,
Insufficient Upright Signs? Challenge Rejected
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: October 25, 2023, 2:58 pm
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Outcome: DNC. The end of the beginning.
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