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       NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: Troubled
       Date: August 15, 2024, 7:56 am
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       I received a NIP today on this route. Firstly, I thought the
       camera was a red light camera only, and secondly, Google Maps
       and Apple Maps have signage prior to the camera stating it is
       30mph (see link).
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/V6aMA4KeGDdMhaYD7
       I was recorded at 25mph in what they have said is a 20mph speed
       limit.
       Any help would be greatly appreciated?
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       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 15, 2024, 8:26 am
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       It doesn't matter what the speed limit/signage was 17 months
       ago. What matters is what it was when you were "caught" (or for
       all intents and purposes, what it is now).
       #Post#: 33447--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: Troubled
       Date: August 15, 2024, 8:29 am
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       Thank you. And where can I find that out for certain, when it
       changed, and whether it has been applied correctly?
       #Post#: 33449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 15, 2024, 8:31 am
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       Ask the relevant highways authority for a copy of the Traffic
       Regulation Order.
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       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: Troubled
       Date: August 15, 2024, 8:32 am
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       Thank you. Is that not available online? How would I do so?
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       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: August 15, 2024, 9:03 am
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       --- Quote from: Troubled link ---
       >
       > Thank you. Is that not available online? How would I do so?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It may be, or may not, ask them, there is no regulation about
       making the TROs available online.
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       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: Troubled
       Date: August 15, 2024, 9:14 am
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       Thanks, but there appears no avenue for me to obtain this
       information? What process should they have taken and how do I
       tell whether it has been followed? Who owns the process of
       changing the sign visible on Google from any that subsequently
       replaces it?
       #Post#: 33456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: August 15, 2024, 9:23 am
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       Have you considered, I don’t know, phoning them or writing to
       them and asking for a copy of the TRO?
       🤷🏻‍♂️
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       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: August 15, 2024, 9:58 am
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       --- Quote from: Troubled link ---
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       > Who owns the process of changing the sign visible on Google
       from any that subsequently replaces it?
       >
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       Google!
       Find out who the relevant highway authority is, phone them and
       ask!
       Process for changing a limit is
       1/ Proposal and draft TRO
       2/ Relevant checks
       3/ Approval of TRO
       4/ Publication and change signs
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       Re: NIP Lewisham Way j/w Florence Road S/B SE14 (3028)
   DIR By: peodude
       Date: August 15, 2024, 10:16 am
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       --- Quote from: Troubled link ---
       >
       > Thank you. And where can I find that out for certain, when it
       changed, and whether it has been applied correctly?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It will probably be around Sept 23 as per
  HTML https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66785653
       
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