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       #Post#: 32958--------------------------------------------------
       My friend with provisional licence got a speeding ticket with no
       Insurance 
   DIR By: Luck
       Date: August 11, 2024, 8:25 am
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       Hi
       My friend over 25 with a provisional licence borrowed my car and
       got a speeding ticket at 26mph on a 20mph zone
       He didn't have insurance to drive my car. I believe he will get
       points and a fine.
       My question is, will I get points on my licence for letting him
       drive my car??
       #Post#: 32959--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My friend with provisional licence got a speeding ticket
       with no Insurance 
   DIR By: 666
       Date: August 11, 2024, 8:32 am
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       Yes, if the police investigate. It seems you are guilty of
       causing or permitting your friend to drive without insurance.
       Six points. If you're lucky, a £300 fixed penalty. Otherwise an
       income-related fine.
       #Post#: 32963--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My friend with provisional licence got a speeding ticket
       with no Insurance 
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 11, 2024, 8:40 am
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       Unfortunately, Doris Stokes, Mystic Meg and all the other
       psychics we used to use have unexpectedly passed to the other
       side.
       From what you have told us, you may well be prosecuted for
       permitting. Or you might not.
       Some forces seem to be more keen to prosecute permitting where
       the driver variously manages to evade justice, or appears to be
       a fabrication. Others prefer to spread the love more widely.
       #Post#: 33039--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My friend with provisional licence got a speeding ticket
       with no Insurance 
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: August 12, 2024, 4:52 am
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       As above, if there are no shenanigans or strange responses (or
       lack of) that give the Police cause to look at this more
       closely, it is possible that the sausage machine will just deal
       with the response and chuck out an offer of SAC* or fixed
       penalty without anyone looking at insurance or lack of.
       Respond with the driver details and get them to confirm they
       were driving.
       *I can't remember if you can attend a speed awareness course
       without a full licence?
       #Post#: 33047--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My friend with provisional licence got a speeding ticket
       with no Insurance 
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: August 12, 2024, 5:27 am
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       Other point to note, the OP elected to spare us the relevant
       details, by instead stating that is friend "got a speeding
       ticket".
       #Post#: 33053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My friend with provisional licence got a speeding ticket
       with no Insurance 
   DIR By: The Rookie
       Date: August 12, 2024, 5:43 am
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       --- Quote from: Luck link ---
       >
       > My friend over 25 with a provisional licence borrowed my car
       and got a speeding ticket at 26mph on a 20mph zone
       > He didn't have insurance to drive my car. I believe he will
       get points and a fine.
       >
       > My question is, will I get points on my licence for letting
       him drive my car??
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Will you? Possibly, could you, yes.  Similar punishment to the
       driver and similar (double in the first year) insurance impact
       if you do.
       History suggests the Police don't routinely check insurance
       unless given a cause to be 'shenanigans'.
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