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       #Post#: 32857--------------------------------------------------
       Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traffic l
       ight’
       By: stamfordman Date: August 10, 2024, 5:04 am
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       Drivers say they are ‘incredulous’ after receiving ‘absurd’
       charges for picking up or dropping off passengers
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/money/article/2024/aug/10/airport-parking-charge-passengers
       #Post#: 32863--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: mickR Date: August 10, 2024, 6:17 am
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       so, what has he been given a charge for? stopping or picking up
       passengers?
       #Post#: 33009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: slapdash Date: August 11, 2024, 5:39 pm
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       Does a driver magically contravene the conditions because of the
       actions of an external actor.
       They have temporary lights that keep getting shifted around due
       to construction works. I often see folk jumping in or out when
       they are red.
       #Post#: 33777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: BertB Date: August 19, 2024, 5:17 am
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       I think the issue would be that on the surface it looks like she
       just jumped in at the temporary lights as she was passing,
       however if he was going to the collection area to get her, why
       didn't she wait there?
       Seems an odd 'coincidence'.
       In a similar fashion, Birmingham and East Midlands make it known
       that setting down and picking up in the petrol station is also
       liable to a penalty.
       #Post#: 33926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: peodude Date: August 20, 2024, 10:23 am
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       It appears that this case is in the private parking forum.
  HTML https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/vcs-bristol-airport-pcn-for-'stopping-to-pick-updrop-off-a-passenger'-at-a-tempo/
       #Post#: 36891--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: stamfordman Date: September 14, 2024, 5:01 pm
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       Update:
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/sep/14/airport-parking-fines-bristol-unenforceable-bylaw
       #Post#: 36895--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: DWMB2 Date: September 15, 2024, 4:57 am
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       When airport cases pop up in the private parking forum here, the
       usual advice is that the byelaws mean that the land is subject
       to statutory control, and is therefore not 'relevant land' for
       the purposes of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act.
       This in effect means the operator cannot recover any charges
       from the keeper.
       That the existence of byelaws might preclude the formation of an
       enforceable contract against the driver* isn't an argument I've
       heard before, although IANAL.
       *That might not be what the lawyer who was interviewed was
       suggesting, I'm always wary of drawing conclusions from
       newspaper quotes on these sort of things.
       #Post#: 36983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: The Rookie Date: September 16, 2024, 4:03 am
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       [quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=2776.msg36895#msg36895
       date=1726394245]
       That the existence of byelaws might preclude the formation of an
       enforceable contract against the driver* isn't an argument I've
       heard before, although IANAL.
       [/quote]
       It is one I have raised before on Pepipoo, how can you contract
       to pay a charge to allow you to do something illegal?  How can
       they offer a charge to allow you to commit a criminal offence in
       exchange for a 'bribe' not to report it?  It goes against all
       common sense principles.  Of course it's irrelevant for BPA
       members as you'll win at POPLA on non PoFA and irrelevant for
       the IAS as the won't uphold it anyway.  But I'd certainly use it
       in court where applicable.
       #Post#: 37071--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Airport parking: ‘I was charged £170 for stopping at a traff
       ic light’
       By: andy_foster Date: September 16, 2024, 9:12 am
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       Is it the contractual price for picking up passengers, or is it
       the "liquidated damages" for breach of a contract (although
       contract to do what is not exactly clear - no different than any
       other bare prohibition).
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