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       #Post#: 2115--------------------------------------------------
       TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: NotFair
       Date: July 29, 2023, 9:36 am
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       PCN received by post addressed to "The Company Secretary" for an
       alleged yellow box contravention.
       The driver can't remember the event. The CCTV photos provided
       are 4 seconds apart and so I'm not sure a de minimis argument
       can be made.
       I have read that addressing to "The Company Secretary" might be
       a flaw?
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       #Post#: 2118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: NotFair
       Date: July 29, 2023, 9:43 am
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       VRM: AF72TFO
       PCN: GX0883096A
       #Post#: 2119--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: July 29, 2023, 9:46 am
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       Call TFL and ask for the video, they will put the penalty on
       hold and send you a DVD in the post.
       Also, please tell us what your connection is t the limited
       company.
       As long as the car is actually registered to a company there's
       nothing wrong with the PCN being addressed to the Company
       Secretary, but TFL have a habit of messing up the process when
       it comes to limited companies making representations, see
       paragraphs 68 to 70 of
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       #Post#: 2129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: NotFair
       Date: July 29, 2023, 12:09 pm
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       --- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
       >
       > Call TFL and ask for the video, they will put the penalty on
       hold and send you a DVD in the post.
       >
       > Also, please tell us what your connection is t the limited
       company.
       >
       > As long as the car is actually registered to a company there's
       nothing wrong with the PCN being addressed to the Company
       Secretary, but TFL have a habit of messing up the process when
       it comes to limited companies making representations, see
       paragraphs 68 to 70 of
  HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/Red%20Route%20Panel%20Decision.pdf
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks, I will do that.
       The driver of the car is a company director.
       #Post#: 2151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: July 29, 2023, 7:34 pm
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       The absolute deadline to make representations is 24 August 2023,
       but really you should chase the video if you've not had it
       within a week or so.
       #Post#: 2266--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: NotFair
       Date: July 31, 2023, 10:56 am
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       I have requested the footage. They've placed a hold on the PCN
       for 14 days.
       #Post#: 3028--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: NotFair
       Date: August 10, 2023, 7:27 am
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       No sign of a DVD.
       I'll call them to chase it...
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       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: NotFair
       Date: August 26, 2023, 1:52 pm
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       Finally have the DVD.
       Seems bang to rights.
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       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: August 26, 2023, 3:14 pm
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       --- Quote from: NotFair link ---
       >
       > [quote author=cp8759 link=topic=277.msg2119#msg2119
       date=1690641977]
       > Call TFL and ask for the video, they will put the penalty on
       hold and send you a DVD in the post.
       >
       > Also, please tell us what your connection is t the limited
       company.
       >
       > As long as the car is actually registered to a company there's
       nothing wrong with the PCN being addressed to the Company
       Secretary, but TFL have a habit of messing up the process when
       it comes to limited companies making representations, see
       paragraphs 68 to 70 of
  HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/Red%20Route%20Panel%20Decision.pdf
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks, I will do that.
       The driver of the car is a company director.
       [/quote]
       Who is the vehicle registered to
       #Post#: 3915--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TfL Yellow Box - Hanger Lane
   DIR By: NotFair
       Date: August 26, 2023, 3:21 pm
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       The company.
       Well, the full registration is...
       "Driver's name c/o Company's name"
       ...as the driver, who is a director, is the only driver of the
       car.
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