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       PPS PCN invoice - paid already by VWFS - what to do/help neeeded
   DIR By: taffer87
       Date: August 8, 2024, 7:59 am
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       Hi all
       I received a letter on 8 August (today) from VWFS dated 7 August
       (yesterday) saying they have paid a PCN invoice from PPS station
       some bogus reasons. I immediately emailed VWFS not to pay. I
       then tried to check online to see if I can appeal but it doesn't
       let me as says payment has been received. If they had not paid I
       would have done a transfer of liability request or worse case
       named the driver. The car is used by multiple people.
       Normally VWFS give 28 days to appeal and only pay if it hasn't
       been appealed but on this occasion they have done something
       bizarre and paid instantly.
       I will really appreciate advice on how to take it further with
       lease company. I assume writing to PPS is futile since they have
       received the money.
       The relevant VWFS letter, third party authorisation letter and
       the PPS PCN invoice is here.
       It also seems they have not followed what they say will happen
       to fines in the FAQ on their website
  HTML https://customer.vwfs.co.uk/existing-customers/During-your-agreement.html
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/xFLkqGP/PPS-PCN-invoic-front-page.png
  HTML https://ibb.co/bbm05Lq
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/VqcdNfh/VWFS-letter-to-me-hirer.png
  HTML https://ibb.co/G54XJz1
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/rffmBQP/PPS-third-party-authorisation-letter.png
  HTML https://ibb.co/3YY7xTX
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/RB6WSGn/PPS-PCN-invoice-back-page.png
  HTML https://ibb.co/dLpycs9
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/72RjHQt/VWFS-website-FAQ.png
  HTML https://ibb.co/cDCkPwh
       My car Hire agreement is here
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/tMTY4ct/lease-agreement-1-of-3.jpg
  HTML https://ibb.co/bgMNPLZ
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/smgsTM4/lease-agreement-2-of-3.jpg
  HTML https://ibb.co/C1wVjTy
  HTML https://i.ibb.co/qm01Bsz/lease-agreement-3-of-3-jpg.jpg
  HTML https://ibb.co/5sYcT8d
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       Re: PPS PCN invoice - paid already by VWFS - what to do/help
       neeeded
   DIR By: b789
       Date: August 8, 2024, 8:27 am
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       They have breached the terms of your agreement. You must tell
       your bank or card company to refund the money as you are in
       dispute.
       What VWFS have done is paid a speculative invoice from an
       unregulated private parking company. No "fine", "penalty" of
       "offence" has happened.
       All they had to do was follow the advice on the Notice to Keeper
       (NtK) they received and transfer liability to you, the Hirer,
       after which the PPC would have issued a Notice to Hirer (NtH)
       and you could have appealed it and easily won because the PPC
       will have failed to fully comply with all the requirements of
       PoFA and so, only the driver would have been liable. As the
       Hirer, you could have simply declined to identify the driver as
       there is no legal obligation to so so to an unregulated private
       parking company.
       If your bank/card company do not chargeback the funds to your
       account, you will have to sue VWFS for the money.
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