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pcn code 12 - not displaying a valid permit
DIR By: Amsy
Date: August 7, 2024, 9:21 am
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Hi, my brother got a ticket because he didn't pay for parking.
His phone was dead so he couldn't use the app or call up and the
machine was out of order - so he couldn't pay with his card for
parking.
The parking attendant only observed for one minute - my brother
thought he had 10 mins grace.
Because he thought he had 10 mins he asked his friend to charge
his phone so he could pay for parking, when he came out he had a
ticket on the car.
Does he have any grounds for appeal?
I have attached a picture of the pcn and also the machine which
says its out of order.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/LobGgL6.jpg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/iFnvTh9.jpg
Thank you for any help or advice you can give
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Re: How long can they observe for?
DIR By: kno
Date: August 7, 2024, 10:26 am
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Please have a read of this link, and update your thread
accordingly.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Re: How long can they observe for?
DIR By: Amsy
Date: August 7, 2024, 1:16 pm
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accordingly.
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HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Thank you - I have updated my post
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Re: pcn code 12 - not displaying a valid permit
DIR By: kno
Date: August 7, 2024, 2:13 pm
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Please update the back side of the PCN, and confirm if this is
the GSV location
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZrJF5JjTfBqvU33j9
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Re: pcn code 12 - not displaying a valid permit
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: August 7, 2024, 3:35 pm
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The pay machine is not out of order - councils are
decommissioning the pay machines to switch exclusively to pay by
phone methods but this is partly due to the machines running on
3G networks, which mobile networks are turning off.
HTML https://news.croydon.gov.uk/changes-to-parking-payments-to-roll-out-across-croydon/
10 minutes is the grace period after paid parking expires so
doesn't apply.
What time did he arrive and why didn't he buy a session as soon
as the phone was booted from the charger. No visitor permits?
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