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#Post#: 32429--------------------------------------------------
Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is still
ok!
DIR By: beano5892
Date: August 6, 2024, 8:55 am
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Hi [member=103]DWMB2[/member] and [member=26]b789[/member]
Someone driving my car forgot about the drop off charge...as I
usually drive!!
Anyway PCN has come through. I can see from various threads that
it can be appealed on basis he is the keeper and not willing to
reveal name of driver etc.
You both provide a template and [member=103]DWMB2[/member] says
that both are 100% successful.
I have used the following and just want to check that's it's
still relevant before I send off. I have not revealed driver,
and have included email only for a reply, but not contact
number.
I look forward to hearing from you
Many thanks
Dear Sirs,
I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ______) for
vehicle registration mark _______, in which you allege that the
driver has incurred a parking charge. I am appealing as the
registered keeper of the vehicle. There is no obligation for me
to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I note from your
correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the
registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of
Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act").
Even if you were seeking to do so, as the Gatwick Airport South
Terminal Drop Off Zone is not "relevant land" as defined by The
Act you are unable to recover the charge from me, the keeper.
I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and
look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been
cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue
a POPLA code.
Yours,
#Post#: 32430--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 6, 2024, 8:58 am
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Yes, that should do the trick. (I assume they don't make any
false claims that they can hold the keeper liable in their
notice?)
Make sure that the appeal is in the name of whoever is the
registered keeper, and be mindful that there are no drop down
boxes etc. That force/trick you into revealing who was driving.
#Post#: 32436--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: b789
Date: August 6, 2024, 9:24 am
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You can word it how you like, as long as it points out to the
operator that you, the known keeper, decline to identify the
unknown driver. Only the unknown driver can be liable for the
PCN because, as you both know, the airport is land under
statutory control and keeper liability does not apply. The
operator cannot infer or assume that the known keeper is the
unknown driver. So, they should cancel the PCN or issue a POPLA
code where they will be wasting their money on an assessment
which will find in the keepers favour.
Don't try to overthink it, just do it and do not identify the
driver, inadvertently or otherwise.
It's Catch-22 for the operator.
#Post#: 32475--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 6, 2024, 12:15 pm
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You've told them who is the driver in the first post!
#Post#: 32478--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 6, 2024, 12:26 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> You've told them who is the driver in the first post!
>
--- End Quote ---
Indeed, although as the OP hasn't shared the notice received,
unless NCP are in possession of psychic powers, this isn't too
concerning.
Although it is good to get into the habit of not identifying the
driver when talking about the incident.
#Post#: 32480--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: b789
Date: August 6, 2024, 12:28 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> You've told them who is the driver in the first post!
>
--- End Quote ---
And who might "them" be?
I drove to Manchester Airport today. If you were NCP, an
unregulated private parking company, how would you go about
identifying me?
As long as the driver is unknown to NCP, there's no problem.
#Post#: 32484--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: beano5892
Date: August 6, 2024, 1:14 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> You've told them who is the driver in the first post!
>
--- End Quote ---
sorted! thanks
#Post#: 34332--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: beano5892
Date: August 23, 2024, 8:52 am
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Hi folks
Just wanted to update and let you know that the appeal was
successful!
Many thanks as always!
#Post#: 34335--------------------------------------------------
Re: Gatwick drop off PCN appeal : just confirming template is
still ok!
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: August 23, 2024, 9:03 am
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Good result, thanks for the update.
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