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Re: Cpz
DIR By: guest179
Date: July 29, 2023, 11:50 am
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OP, you could take photos easily, so I suggest you do. Also,
where are the councils photos?
@John UK, Poirotesque sleuthing is all well and good but we
don't know where the OP's car was parked and this sign's
relevance.
And for the benefit of other readers, as regards GSV there are
moment in time shots (covering as long as it took the GSV
vehicle to traverse the road) from Jun 2023, Apr 2012 and 2009
in each of which the majority of cars is parked on the
carriageway, even after the parking bay markings had been
placed. Closer inspection suggests a correlation between limited
specific locations and parking on the footway i.e. vehicles in
the immediate vicinity of the Churchville junction.
OP, over to you for the council's photos pl and the backstory.
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: Ali khan
Date: July 30, 2023, 1:53 pm
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The covers came off on the 3rd of july this year, as far as the
consultation goes I'm aware there was one, i assumed most of the
residents were against it and that it wouldn't go ahead, other
than how what and when i have no clue other than something i
believe recieved in march this year to let us know it was going
ahead.. On google maps it can me seen that the concrete verges
are on the left hand side of southville road when you enter from
Maryville road and then both sides after churchville road
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: Ali khan
Date: July 30, 2023, 2:18 pm
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I'm struggling to add more pictures to this post any suggestions
please
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: Ali khan
Date: July 30, 2023, 2:27 pm
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It is the same sign as covered up in GSV. Note the telegraph
pole, the background houses, satellite dish and roses! If this
helps when you go on GSV I'm the vauxhall zafira parked on the
opposite side on the day i got the ticket i was parked in the
place of the hyundai well way from the edge of the bay,
literally where he was parked is where i was parked
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: Ali khan
Date: July 30, 2023, 2:59 pm
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HTML https://imgur.com/a/GXxEvo1
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 31, 2023, 11:06 am
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There's two aspect to this, the legalities and common sense.
By the letter of the law, you cannot take it upon yourself to
decide to park outside of the bay markings, just as I can't
decide to do 100 mph on the motorway just because I think the 70
mph limit is outdated and stupid.
That being said, please can we see the terms and conditions for
your permit? It has been held on numerous occasions that the
requirement to park within the bay markings must be communicated
to motorists, and this is usually done in a CPZ but saying so in
the terms and conditions of the permits. If this requirement has
not been communicated to motorists, it can be argued that this
requirement of the traffic regulation order has not been brought
to the attention of persons using the road, and for that reason
the contravention did not occur.
Decisions on this point:
Cooper v London Borough of Richmond Upon Thames (1990292199, 18
July 2000)
HTML http://bit.ly/3ZXRgh0
Ernesto Villa Blandino v London Borough of Barnet (2110474195,
28 November 2011)
HTML http://bit.ly/3WCbvxL
Michal Budai v London Borough of Barnet (2120008348, 06 February
2012)
HTML http://bit.ly/3iZgaMB
Caroline Ratner v London Borough of Barnet (2140338414, 10
September 2014)
HTML http://bit.ly/3JaxaKG
Cheryl Kuczynski v London Borough of Barnet (2160033974, 30
April 2016)
HTML http://bit.ly/3J3WCkW
Sultan Gangji v London Borough of Barnet (2160439695, 15
November 2016)
HTML http://bit.ly/3XyBQy4
Tecwyn Evans v London Borough of Merton (2160499981, 05 January
2017)
HTML http://bit.ly/3wlTfOL
Gerald Halibard v London Borough of Barnet (2170225166, 15 June
2017)
HTML http://bit.ly/3Hmjg5J
Lamin Sesay v London Borough of Southwark (2180188510, 22 June
2018)
HTML http://bit.ly/3kAFUj0
Anthony Westmore v London Borough of Barnet (2180064744, 15
March 2018)
HTML http://bit.ly/3nwzArv
Keren Lewin v London Borough of Haringey (2190290943, 28 August
2019)
HTML http://bit.ly/3XI0n3A
Then there's the common-sense issue of whether the bay markings
should be changed to allow part-footway parking, this would
require the nearside part of the bay to be marked on the
pavement. That is a political issue to be taken up with the
local councillor.
Finally there's the question of whether, in the circumstances
where the council seems to be moving towards permitting
part-footway parking on this road, the bay markings should be
enforced in any event, even if they are enforceable. This comes
down to the council's powers to not enforce the PCN.
I have requested the traffic order from the council, in the
meantime please post the terms and conditions of your permit.
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: Ali khan
Date: July 31, 2023, 1:27 pm
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The paper part can be seen here.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/fo3F4tO
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: slapdash
Date: July 31, 2023, 2:28 pm
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You might want to redact your name and address.
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: Ali khan
Date: July 31, 2023, 7:02 pm
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Reposted with address redacted
HTML https://imgur.com/a/InF7rhn
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Re: Cpz
DIR By: guest179
Date: August 1, 2023, 4:03 am
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HTML https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/5464
HTML https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/5460
Reason for Proposal:
Bedford Borough Council has received a request to extend Permit
Holders and Pay and Display parking to include St Leonard’s
Avenue, Station Road, Maryville Road, Churchville Road,
Eastville Road and Southville Road, Bedford. Congested parking
in these streets by visitors reduces available parking for
residents.
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