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       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: guest179
       Date: July 29, 2023, 11:50 am
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       OP, you could take photos easily, so I suggest you do. Also,
       where are the councils photos?
       @John UK, Poirotesque sleuthing is all well and good but we
       don't know where the OP's car was parked and this sign's
       relevance.
       And for the benefit of other readers, as regards GSV there are
       moment in time shots (covering as long as it took the GSV
       vehicle to traverse the road) from Jun 2023, Apr 2012 and 2009
       in each of which the majority of cars is parked on the
       carriageway, even after the parking bay markings had been
       placed. Closer inspection suggests a correlation between limited
       specific locations and parking on the footway i.e. vehicles in
       the immediate vicinity of the Churchville junction.
       OP, over to you for the council's photos pl and the backstory.
       #Post#: 2206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: Ali khan
       Date: July 30, 2023, 1:53 pm
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       The covers came off on the 3rd of july this year, as far as the
       consultation goes I'm aware there was one, i assumed most of the
       residents were against it and that it wouldn't go ahead, other
       than how what and when i have no clue other than something i
       believe recieved in march this year to let us know it was going
       ahead.. On google maps it can me seen that the concrete verges
       are on the left hand side of southville road when you enter from
       Maryville road and then both sides after churchville road
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       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: Ali khan
       Date: July 30, 2023, 2:18 pm
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       I'm struggling to add more pictures to this post any suggestions
       please
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       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: Ali khan
       Date: July 30, 2023, 2:27 pm
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       It is the same sign as covered up in GSV. Note the telegraph
       pole, the background houses, satellite dish and roses! If this
       helps when you go on GSV I'm the vauxhall zafira parked on the
       opposite side on the day i got the ticket i was parked in the
       place of the hyundai well way from the edge of the bay,
       literally where he was parked is where i was parked
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       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: Ali khan
       Date: July 30, 2023, 2:59 pm
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  HTML https://imgur.com/a/GXxEvo1
       #Post#: 2268--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: July 31, 2023, 11:06 am
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       There's two aspect to this, the legalities and common sense.
       By the letter of the law, you cannot take it upon yourself to
       decide to park outside of the bay markings, just as I can't
       decide to do 100 mph on the motorway just because I think the 70
       mph limit is outdated and stupid.
       That being said, please can we see the terms and conditions for
       your permit? It has been held on numerous occasions that the
       requirement to park within the bay markings must be communicated
       to motorists, and this is usually done in a CPZ but saying so in
       the terms and conditions of the permits. If this requirement has
       not been communicated to motorists, it can be argued that this
       requirement of the traffic regulation order has not been brought
       to the attention of persons using the road, and for that reason
       the contravention did not occur.
       Decisions on this point:
       Cooper v London Borough of Richmond Upon Thames (1990292199, 18
       July 2000)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3ZXRgh0
       Ernesto Villa Blandino v London Borough of Barnet (2110474195,
       28 November 2011)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3WCbvxL
       Michal Budai v London Borough of Barnet (2120008348, 06 February
       2012)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3iZgaMB
       Caroline Ratner v London Borough of Barnet (2140338414, 10
       September 2014)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3JaxaKG
       Cheryl Kuczynski v London Borough of Barnet (2160033974, 30
       April 2016)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3J3WCkW
       Sultan Gangji v London Borough of Barnet (2160439695, 15
       November 2016)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3XyBQy4
       Tecwyn Evans v London Borough of Merton (2160499981, 05 January
       2017)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3wlTfOL
       Gerald Halibard v London Borough of Barnet (2170225166, 15 June
       2017)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3Hmjg5J
       Lamin Sesay v London Borough of Southwark (2180188510, 22 June
       2018)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3kAFUj0
       Anthony Westmore v London Borough of Barnet (2180064744, 15
       March 2018)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3nwzArv
       Keren Lewin v London Borough of Haringey (2190290943, 28 August
       2019)
  HTML http://bit.ly/3XI0n3A
       Then there's the common-sense issue of whether the bay markings
       should be changed to allow part-footway parking, this would
       require the nearside part of the bay to be marked on the
       pavement. That is a political issue to be taken up with the
       local councillor.
       Finally there's the question of whether, in the circumstances
       where the council seems to be moving towards permitting
       part-footway parking on this road, the bay markings should be
       enforced in any event, even if they are enforceable. This comes
       down to the council's powers to not enforce the PCN.
       I have requested the traffic order from the council, in the
       meantime please post the terms and conditions of your permit.
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       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: Ali khan
       Date: July 31, 2023, 1:27 pm
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       The paper part can be seen here.
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/fo3F4tO
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       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: slapdash
       Date: July 31, 2023, 2:28 pm
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       You might want to redact your name and address.
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       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: Ali khan
       Date: July 31, 2023, 7:02 pm
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       Reposted with address redacted
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/InF7rhn
       #Post#: 2302--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cpz
   DIR By: guest179
       Date: August 1, 2023, 4:03 am
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  HTML https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/5464
  HTML https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/5460
       Reason for Proposal:
       Bedford Borough Council has received a request to extend Permit
       Holders and Pay and Display parking to include St Leonard’s
       Avenue, Station Road, Maryville Road, Churchville Road,
       Eastville Road and Southville Road, Bedford. Congested parking
       in these streets by visitors reduces available parking for
       residents.
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