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       TFL PCN in post  - yellow box junction
   DIR By: schmuel
       Date: August 3, 2024, 7:55 am
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       Hello!  :)
       Just joined the forum and am after some advice please on a
       TFL-issued PCN I received in the post. Offence is code 31,
       entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited.
       The offending vehicle was turning left out of a traffic
       light-controlled junction and could not exit the yellow box due
       to stationary traffic. TFL have provided three photos as
       evidence for the offence, attached here. I'm not convinced
       though that these prove that my vehicle was the one that was
       stopped in the box - as you can see, you can't read the number
       plate of the car stopped in the box, only the plate of a car
       driving on a different section of road. Would be interested in
       peoples' views of whether this might be grounds for an appeal?
       Here are the photos (I didnt seem to be able to attach them here
       for some reason):
  HTML https://freeimage.host/i/dRXSnb1
  HTML https://freeimage.host/i/dRXSCOP
  HTML https://freeimage.host/i/dRXSB5B
       Thanks very much in advance for any advice you can provide!
       Sam
       #Post#: 32090--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN in post  - yellow box junction
   DIR By: schmuel
       Date: August 3, 2024, 7:59 am
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       PS - scan of the front page of the PCN here:
       #Post#: 32101--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN in post  - yellow box junction
   DIR By: H-M3
       Date: August 3, 2024, 9:02 am
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       I think you need to redact your personal details such as name
       address.
       Regards
       #Post#: 32106--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN in post  - yellow box junction
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: August 3, 2024, 9:21 am
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       Here's the photos:
  HTML https://iili.io/dRXSnb1.jpg
  HTML https://iili.io/dRXSCOP.jpg
  HTML https://iili.io/dRXSB5B.jpg
       With regard to the PCN, please repost (all sides) redacting only
       name & address.
       You also need to contact TfL and ask them to send a copy of the
       viodeo (which is the evidence) and to put the PCN on hold while
       they send the cd out.
       #Post#: 32136--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN in post  - yellow box junction
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 3, 2024, 1:12 pm
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       The photos prove nothing, it is their video, (their sole
       evidence), that should show the transgression and the reg.
       number of the vehicle. So, no, the photos are not the evidence
       and that video evidence will only be viewed and assessed at the
       adjudicators, (London Tribunals),  and I would say the photos,
       being extracts from the video, are not, therefore, grounds for
       an appeal.
       #Post#: 32303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL PCN in post  - yellow box junction
   DIR By: schmuel
       Date: August 5, 2024, 10:54 am
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       Hi again, and thanks all for the advice so far!
       I have scanned the full PCN and redacted personal details,
       uploaded here:
  HTML https://ibb.co/vdDv7qG
       For now, I'll request the video from TFL as well and ask them to
       pause the case.
       Thanks all!
       Sam
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