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#Post#: 76201--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: June 12, 2025, 7:58 am
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Thanks b789 - all sent.
Hopefully I'll receive a response - what sort of timescale
should be normal here? I've never heard anything back in
response to my previous correspondence when we first highlighted
the issue with the allocation to St Helens.
#Post#: 76202--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: DWMB2 Date: June 12, 2025, 8:09 am
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You'd be better off asking us for this week's lottery numbers
than trying to predict response times from a County Court I'm
afraid. Hopefully unlike your previous correspondence they'll
look at it more promptly.
#Post#: 76203--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: b789 Date: June 12, 2025, 8:10 am
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Do a search for any other email addresses for the court. Also,
try and phone them.
#Post#: 77890--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: June 24, 2025, 7:35 am
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I've not heard anything regarding the request for a review of
the hearing, so I tried calling the court today for an update,
with my call being transferred to a central administrative
centre.
Receipt of the email was confirmed, and apparently it was
allocated to a District Judge on the same day for the issuance
of further directions. Other than that the gent in the call
centre wasn't able to help me any further.
I assume it's now a case of waiting for something to come in the
post?
#Post#: 77899--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: b789 Date: June 24, 2025, 8:01 am
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At least you know it was received and sent to a judge for
further orders. So, yes, all you can do for now is wait.
Once a matter has been referred to a District Judge for
consideration of further directions—especially following a
procedural request like this—it’s typical that:
[indent]• The Judge will issue written directions (either
granting or refusing the request), and
• The court will communicate the Judge’s decision by
post—usually in the form of a General Form of Judgment or Order
(Form N24).[/indent]
If the matter was referred on the same day your email was
received, and assuming there’s no backlog, you can usually
expect something to arrive within 7–10 days. However, this can
vary depending on the court’s workload and postal delays.
In the meantime, don't assume the hearing has been adjourned or
moved unless and until you receive formal confirmation in
writing. If you don’t receive anything within 14 days, it would
be appropriate to follow up again by email, referencing your
earlier correspondence and the phone call.
#Post#: 78481--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: June 27, 2025, 7:37 am
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I've received a supplementary witness statement from BW Legal
this morning. I assume our position will be that they've missed
the boat by quite some time in terms of this being allowed to be
admitted?
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#Post#: 78489--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: b789 Date: June 27, 2025, 8:11 am
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Yes, they have missed the deadline. However, don't get into a
game of WS ping-pong. When the judge issues the orders after
reviewing your request, you will know when and where the hearing
is going to take place.
At the hearing you can point out to the judge that the claimants
supplementary WS was issued late and is made by a paralegal in
the employ of the claimants solicitor and not someone with
firsthand knowledge and is should be dismissed.
The judge will not be happy with their messing about. All judges
want is a a quiet life. The judge hearing the case will only
have seen the bundle maybe 5 or 10 minutes before the hearing.
They will not have time to read anything in depth.
They will have a look at the PoC, the defence and then skim the
WS for the facts, if they're obvious. The question is, has the
claim been made properly? Has the claim been defended properly?
Is the claim valid? Has the defendant rebutted the claim
properly? Decision will be made after maybe a few questions and
that will be it.
In this case, you have to make it clear at the start that the
claimants WS is not a true WS as the "witness" is not even
employed by the claimant and is not there to be cross examined.
There is no cause of action against you as the Keeper because
the Notice to Keeper is nt compliant with PoFA 9(2)(a) as there
is no period of parking noted, just a single observed time. The
persuasive appellate case of Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions
makes it clear that a single observation time is not sufficient
to satisfy PoFA 9(2)(a).
Additionally, for a contract to be formed, there must be a
consideration period. None has been evidenced and therefore
there is no evidence of a contract having been formed with the
driver.
Those are your main points of defence.
#Post#: 79383--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: July 3, 2025, 5:22 am
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Quick update...
Letter received from HMCTS this morning, advising that the
original order from 11th May has been rescinded, the 1st August
hearing vacated, and the matter transferred to my home court for
listing.
If the original order has been rescinded, does this mean that
we're going to have to go through the whole witness statement
process again? Or will the District Judge at Norwich
essentially pick up where St Helens left off, and move straight
to a hearing date?
Also, now that the matter will get an in-person hearing here in
Norwich, and BW Legal will have to pay for someone to travel
down to be present, will this potentially increase the chances
of them discontinuing at some point before the new hearing date?
#Post#: 79391--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: DWMB2 Date: July 3, 2025, 5:51 am
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Rather than summarising the contents of the letter it may be
worth you sharing it with us.
#Post#: 79393--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: July 3, 2025, 6:02 am
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[quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=2688.msg79391#msg79391
date=1751539874]
Rather than summarising the contents of the letter it may be
worth you sharing it with us.
[/quote]
That is quite literally the letter:
"Before [Judge] sitting at [Court].
Upon considering the Defendant's email dated 12 June 2025
IT IS ORDERED THAT
1 - The order of 11 May 2025 is rescinded.
2 - The hearing on 1 August 2025 is vacated.
3 - The matter is transferred to the Defendant's home court for
listing."
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