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#Post#: 105055--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: January 8, 2026, 4:35 am
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Well that was a spectacular waste of time/money.
NTC's claim was allowed, along with their representation costs
of £150 as the judge ruled me to have acted unreasonably.
Judge was completely dismissive and arrogant, and seemed to take
extreme umbrage at my pointing out that BW Legal had served
their bundle late and inccurately. It very much seemed that he'd
already arrived at his decision before we even entered the room.
To summarise his points:
The photographs in the Witness Statement demonstrated a period
of parking.
No evidence that Eden Moore had asserted conduct of litigation.
Claims that claim was inaccurately pleaded were simply
incorrect.
Contract was formed as the documents and notice make it clear
that the mere act of parking was acceptance of the terms.
PoFA fully complied with - simple breach of contract by parking
where not entitled. Stationary vehicle with no driver was
sufficient.
Brennan irrelevant and non-binding.
Valid contract with landowner.
My documents and evidence were entirely at odds with those
provided by the claimant, and therefore no weight attached to
them.
14 days now to pay £432.
#Post#: 105056--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: DWMB2 Date: January 8, 2026, 4:41 am
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That's a real shame, and quite a surpruise - you seem to have
very much fallen foul of 'judge bingo' - there are some good
ones and some crap ones.
#Post#: 105057--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: January 8, 2026, 4:50 am
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[quote author=DWMB2 link=topic=2688.msg105056#msg105056
date=1767868918]
That's a real shame, and quite a surpruise - you seem to have
very much fallen foul of 'judge bingo' - there are some good
ones and some crap ones.
[/quote]
The 'unreasonable conduct' premium is the real kicker.
I thought that the bar for this at Small Claims level is
exceedingly high, and very much reserved for non-compliance with
directions? I seem to have been deemed unreasonable for choosing
to challenge the claim based on a fairly solid prior judgment?
#Post#: 105058--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: DWMB2 Date: January 8, 2026, 4:55 am
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That's the part that surprised me - adverse judgements can
happen, but unreasonable conduct is very unusual, due to the
high bar that you mention. It's hard to see your conduct as
meeting that threshold, unless you walked into the courtroom and
acted the pillock, which I very much doubt.
County Court decisions can be appealed, if you feel strongly
enough, but I personally wouldn't go down that route without
professional advice, and there is always the risk that by doing
so you throw good money after bad. If you did, Contestor Legal
Services
HTML https://contestorlegal.co.uk/
seem to have had some good results
in the private parking field (ironically their CEO used to work
for BW Legal before turning to the good side), but I don't have
any direct experience of them, so don't take this as a personal
recommendation!
Sorry we couldn't help you get a positive result on this
occasion. One part of the process we can't help with is the
judge on the day.
#Post#: 105059--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: January 8, 2026, 5:01 am
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Will I receive a written judgment?
#Post#: 105078--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: DWMB2 Date: January 8, 2026, 7:12 am
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You'd generally get a judgement order, although this usually
just says the amount you owe to whom and by when.
#Post#: 105080--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: January 8, 2026, 7:14 am
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Is there any way of getting hold of the Judge's rationale in
writing, or is this not applicable at this level?
#Post#: 105085--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: DWMB2 Date: January 8, 2026, 7:28 am
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You can order a transcript of the hearing (or just the judgement
part), there is a cost for this - Guidance for requesting a
transcript
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/order-a-transcript-of-court-or-tribunal-proceedings-form-ex107/guidance-for-requesting-a-transcript
#Post#: 106233--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: Snudge88 Date: January 16, 2026, 1:57 pm
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Sorry - a quick further question... What happens now?
A week has passed and I've not heard from anyone - HMCTS, BW
Legal, or NTC.
I assume I'll get the judgment in the post. Does the 14 days
I've been given to pay start from the date of the hearing, or
the date that the judgment is issued?
Either way, is it now a case of me proactively contacting NTC to
try and pay?
#Post#: 106337--------------------------------------------------
Re: Norwich Traffic Control PCN - Unauthorised Parking - St Anne
's Quarter, Norwich
By: InterCity125 Date: January 18, 2026, 2:52 am
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Are you planning on appealing this? You clearly have grounds.
Did you order the transcript?
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