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WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage, being
in a bus lane
DIR By: Jjb0800
Date: July 31, 2024, 1:54 pm
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Hi guys,
I need your guys' assistance with a template to appeal my PCN.
My council issued a bus lane PCN, which occurred last week, and
I believe I was unfairly punished for it.
It was in Walsall Bridge Street, and I'm not that stupid to
drive in a clearly marked bus lane as the last one I had
received was many moons ago.
I have checked the signage again on Google Maps, and it was a
small square board displayed, which states "11pm - 5am" with the
blue and white bus symbol, and I admit I did not notice this and
also it did not have any signs to say it was camera controlled.
Also, there should be enough notice for motorists to read the
signage way before you enter the road, which seems like a
council money making operation.
My point is that as soon as you reach the traffic light, you
have no choice but turn into the bus lane and has caught
hundreds of motorists as shown on birmingham mail and many have
disputed this and won.
Also, I had a car behind me, as shown in the video of my
contravention, so this would have meant that I'm unable to turn
my vehicle even if I knew this was a bus lane.
Please can anyone help with what to write in my appeal?
Any help would be much appreciated.
HTML https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/almost-every-appeal-against-fines-27531206.amp
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Please see PCN on below link:
HTML https://imgur.com/a/F2yXEuf
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Re: Bus lane PCN Walsall Bridge street 34J
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 31, 2024, 3:47 pm
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Sorry, but we need more solid info before meaningful advice can
be given. SO please read this and update your thread
accordingly. We need to see the video and the PCN, and a GSV
link to the location will also be useful.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: Jjb0800
Date: July 31, 2024, 6:16 pm
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Please see video of contravention and street view location on
the below links, I have also added the PCN photo in my original
post.
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/L9yX5zmfPAyLW7Dm6
HTML https://www.veed.io/view/49f5ad24-5f5a-4e9e-9044-6440aee6e113?panel=showcase
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: Jjb0800
Date: July 31, 2024, 6:26 pm
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You can clearly see two cars were behind me in the video, and I
immediately pulled over to the left
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 31, 2024, 7:02 pm
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Maybe you can see two cars, but I can't because your video is
set to Private. Please release to Public.
The advance sign is so close to the bus gate sign as to be
almost useless, as it gives far too little distance in which to
read the times and then work out one must move over to the right
lane if within the restricted times. I reckon it is only about 5
yards from the restriction sign, see this view: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/nTHDNZJV36kD2DdV8
It's just laughable !
The council muppets being obviously under budget restrictions
have merely placed the advance sign on a convenient lamp post. A
better lamppost would be the one just after the bus stop, but
better it has its own pole. The sign can only be read properly
when you are about to pass it.
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: Jjb0800
Date: August 1, 2024, 4:35 am
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Hi please see link below for video
HTML https://jmp.sh/s/XVKLriiqGzJsOIQK4l3S
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 1, 2024, 4:59 am
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The video shows no contravention being committed at all, so this
needs to be incorporated into your representations along with
the other points.
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: Jjb0800
Date: August 1, 2024, 5:11 am
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I agree, it all seems a but strange to me how the council can
legally enforce this bus lane....
When you mention representation, does this mean another party
involved like a solicitor? Sorry it probably is a daft question
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 1, 2024, 5:36 am
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> I agree, it all seems a but strange to me how the council can
legally enforce this bus lane....
>
> When you mention representation, does this mean another party
involved like a solicitor? Sorry it probably is a daft question
>
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No. Your representations is what you write out and submit to
the council against the PCN, with reasons for them cancelling
it. No lawyers on huge wages, heaven forbid !!
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Re: WALSALL - BRIDGE STREET - PCN Code 34J - unclear signage,
being in a bus lane
DIR By: Jjb0800
Date: August 1, 2024, 8:11 am
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Thanks so much.
Should I pay my pcn now at the reduced rate and then write my
appeal? I just fear it may not be accepted in time within the 14
day period?
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