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#Post#: 31453--------------------------------------------------
Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: Jamran
Date: July 28, 2024, 1:44 pm
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I travelled from Mile End to Leytonstone Road near Maryland
Station ( GSV
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/vVxzcM7xbF45XvFB8?g_st=ic<br
/>), where I parked. The signage stated it was 30 mins free
parking Mon-Sat. Seeing as it was Sunday, I assumed it’s was
free to park. When I came back to my vehicle, I was greeted with
a PCN on my windscreen. I gathered it may have been for an event
as it also stated different times for event days.
I have read of another similar case here and everyone mentioned
the OP missed the signage about the next event days. I have gone
through my route on GSV but cannot see that I’ve passed any CPZ
signage that I’ve missed so I had no forewarning about when the
next event was. Do I have a case?
I’ve attached the PCN below
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Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 28, 2024, 5:11 pm
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If you drove along the main road east from Mile End, you would
have passed this sign: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/HFZbjBF3zbe4DGc99
It's a bit naughty of them to have just a single sign, because a
high-sided vehicle like a bus could obscure it. In addition, one
would not be looking for the event day date at a location like
this which is not at any junction of feature on the road as you
drive.
You will see at the bottom of the sign is a slot for the next
event date. This is a dual carriageway, so there is nothing to
stop them putting a sign on the central reservation. So adequacy
of signage is an issue. I'm also not certain about the sign at
the bay where you parked. One could argue it is misleading as
the event days could be assumed to be within the Mon-Sat of the
main restriction, but see what the others say on this one.
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Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: Jamran
Date: July 29, 2024, 7:56 am
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Thank you. Wow didn’t even see that even on GSV! That’s so
sneaky of them seeing as it’s so far from where the incident
occurred. That sign is essentially at the entry of the borough.
#Post#: 31620--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: Jamran
Date: July 30, 2024, 8:09 am
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Bump
#Post#: 31796--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: Jamran
Date: July 31, 2024, 10:29 pm
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Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks
#Post#: 31802--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: August 1, 2024, 3:47 am
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If you want to fight this, you first have to submit an informal
challenge against the PCN. Then, if you're unhappy with their
reply, make a decision whether to pay the discounted amount or
take the matter further. The alternative is to just pay the
discounted amount now, but doing this before any representations
are rejected is not recommended. The discounted amount will be
re-offered if you submit your reps to arrive with them before
the discount period expires, (see your PCN).
Try something like this: -
Dear Sirs
Re postal PCN <number> dated <dd/mm/yyyy> for alleged
contravention on <dd/mm/yyyy> at Leytonstone Road
I deny liability for the above PCN penalty on the grounds that
the contravention did not occur due to very poor signing of the
Event Days restriction.
When I received the PCN, I was puzzled about why it had been
served as I had passed no sign about event day dates on my
journey from Mile End. I therefore took some advice, and it was
pointed out to me that there was an entry sign to the Zone on
the main road just after Marshgate Lane. A look at Google Street
View showed an isolated single sign on this wide and busy
dual-carriageway where the next event day date is displayed. I
definitely did not see this sign, and can only surmise that a
high sided vehicle such as a bus or van obscured my view when I
drove past, or my attention was to the traffic lights only a few
yards distant. I find it quite incredible that the council
regard this single sign as adequate to convey the event day
information, as it is not located at any junction or location
where a motorist might expect to see a sign regarding parking.
In view of this failure to follow the regulations for placement
of signs advising of parking and traffic restrictions, I request
that the PCN be immediately cancelled, and the council cease
enforcement until signage of event days is considerable
improved.
Yours faithfully
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Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: Jamran
Date: September 4, 2024, 8:03 am
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Hi all,
Following informal reps, I’ve just received a response and sadly
they’ve rejected my reps. I have the rejection letter attached.
Do I have a chance to win at LT?
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Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: September 4, 2024, 8:46 am
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EDITED OUT
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Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 4, 2024, 9:04 am
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I feel now that Newham's parking signs are defective because
there is no indication an event day can also be a Sunday. The
event day hours extension is on the same plate under a Mon-Sat
timing. This is not how other boroughs do it.
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Re: Newham PCN event day code 30
DIR By: Jamran
Date: September 4, 2024, 11:17 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> I feel now that Newham's parking signs are defective because
there is no indication an event day can also be a Sunday. The
event day hours extension is on the same plate under a Mon-Sat
timing. This is not how other boroughs do it.
>
--- End Quote ---
You may actually be right. Didn’t think of it until you
mentioned it. The signage is not very clear compared to other
boroughs which is comprehensive and no room for
misinterpretation
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