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#Post#: 31194--------------------------------------------------
PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: Driver86
Date: July 25, 2024, 1:08 pm
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Hi All
I parked my vehicle on Sunday night on Virginia Road in this bay
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/PLU1V2vTWxqaArDW9
only to find my
vehicle had been removed on Tuesday AM. It appears the bays were
suspended. But there was no signage on that pole where I am
parked.
I have a still image from my dashcam which can be viewed here
HTML https://ibb.co/GWVH2cR
I noticed on the dashcam footage that the pole at the other end
of the street had a yellow signplate indicating suspended
parking, and wondering if that is enough for them?
Here is the the ticket I recieved
HTML https://ibb.co/3M1XwC1
and
image from CEO when removing my vehicle
HTML https://ibb.co/q5QkJTy<br
/>All the other images are of my tyre and the paint on my door.
It
appears they erected a signage, and placed it underneath the
signplate.
#Post#: 31200--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 25, 2024, 1:20 pm
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So here is the sign you say had no suspension sign on it which
was nearest to your car: -
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/tcG9QHHMEs71qxNF9
A motorist is entitled to rely on the sign nearest his car, and
not to have to visit every sign for the bay. So with no sign,
the suspension has not been adequately signed and you should
submit reps on this basis. If they prove obdurate, you would
have a very good case at adjudication, indeed would probably get
costs as well. Councils are have legal obligations just like
motorists, so don't fold and pay if they reoffer the discount,
it's just easy money for them.
#Post#: 31220--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: Driver86
Date: July 25, 2024, 3:12 pm
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Ok that's good to know. Remember that my vehicle was removed so
I had to pay the cowboys £260 to get my car back.
#Post#: 31236--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 25, 2024, 6:22 pm
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You've already paid all there is to pay, so it is a total
no-brainer to take them all the way to London Tribunals, and you
should win because they have failed to sign the suspension
properly. First you have to submit representations to the
council, then when they refuse them, you register an appeal to
London Tribunals, as there are no additional costs in doing so.
#Post#: 31259--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 26, 2024, 3:55 am
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The head-on photo you've posted shows your car parked almost
adjacent to the first (only?) traffic sign in the bay(from this
direction) on which is a clear, three-winged 'Notice Parking
Suspended' sign.
On the face of it your account is at odds with this evidence.
Pl reinstate your VRM so that we can view all the council's
photos pl and see the details of the suspension.
Were you displaying a resident's permit as otherwise required?
#Post#: 31431--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: Driver86
Date: July 28, 2024, 7:26 am
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Hi H C Anderson - Which image are you referring to?
Dashcam? Image taken just as I prepare to enter parking-bay on
21st July. This is the only direction you can see the signpost
since dashcams are looking straight on (not turned to the
right).
CEO Photo? It is of my vehicle at the point of removal on 23rd
July. The Yellow signpost must have been erected that morning.
I have a resident's permit for the area.
--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> The head-on photo you've posted shows your car parked almost
adjacent to the first (only?) traffic sign in the bay(from this
direction) on which is a clear, three-winged 'Notice Parking
Suspended' sign.
>
> On the face of it your account is at odds with this evidence.
>
> Pl reinstate your VRM so that we can view all the council's
photos pl and see the details of the suspension.
>
> Were you displaying a resident's permit as otherwise required?
>
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#Post#: 31436--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: July 28, 2024, 8:08 am
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Please have a read of the READ THIS FIRST - **
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/msg3/#msg3<br
/>sticky post at the top of the forum.
You've redacted the VRM when you were clearly instructed not to.
So please reinstate in the posted image of the PCN or put in
your next post. I for one want to check the CEO photos.
#Post#: 37625--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: Driver86
Date: September 20, 2024, 10:18 am
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I contacted Tower Hamlets council to get an update on this and
they told me that this is now closed as they sent me "notice of
rejection" the day after my appeal apparently - but I never
received it. One of their staff told me that it might be
something I need to take up with the Post Office?! - surely they
are having a laugh!
There will be no charge certificate as I paid to have the car
back.
I've asked them to email me the copy of the letter which I am
now having to wait on. Do I have any rights left?
#Post#: 37649--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 20, 2024, 1:58 pm
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Good.
Adjudication here you come.
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
Your position has improved because there are prospective
procedural c**k-ups a-plenty which the authority could make.
Anyway, for now you wait for the Order for Recovery:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
But keep your finger on the pulse - if one letter sent via the
Royal Mail(Post Office!!) can go missing, then so could an OfR.
#Post#: 37672--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN Code 21 Parked in a suspended bay - vehicle removed
DIR By: Driver86
Date: September 20, 2024, 6:40 pm
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But there is no order of recovery, its closed they say as I have
paid £265 to release my car, and then as far as they are
concerned I did not respond to notice of rejection. This is
robbery.
What can do to have this re-opened? Can I submit to tribunal
even at this stage without their "blessing" once I get that
illusive NoR letter?
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