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#Post#: 31020--------------------------------------------------
Bailiff Notice - Islington - Code 52JM Failing to Comply with a
prohibition - Canonbury Place
By: mcbassman Date: July 24, 2024, 1:58 pm
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Hello everyone - hoping someone might be able to give me some
advice.
PCN: IZ1956630A
Reg: SL63XKT
I have received a Notice of Enforcement through the post from
Newlyn stating that a sum of £279 is oustanding owing to a
contravention dated 21st September 2021.
I dont dispute the contravention, it looks like I've been
trapped by one of the most famous cameras in London, however
this notice of enforcement is the first I've heard of this PCN.
I'd share it with you, but I've never seen it.
To give background, I moved out of my property in Islington in
October 2021. Whilst I notified Islington Council of this
(having had another, now resolved dispute regarding unpaid
council tax), I'm assuming the departments won't talk to one
another. I have received postal correspndance regarding the
council tax to my new address 40 miles away. But any previous
notices were clearly sent to my previous address and binned by
the new tenants.
Unfortunately for me, I failed to update my V5C until February
2022. Because of this fact alone, have I no grounds for dispute?
On the notice enforcement, it says 'Warrant of Control dated
07/05/2024 for non payment of penalty charge notice' - does this
mean anything? Would they have sent anything to the wrong
address since this date?
Finally, owing to postal delays, I've only got until 27th July
to resolve this, with the notice issued on 17th July. Should I
just suck it up and pay?
Thank you for reading!
#Post#: 31035--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiff Notice - Islington - Code 52JM Failing to Comply wit
h a prohibition - Canonbury Place
By: fraser.mitchell Date: July 24, 2024, 4:28 pm
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[quote]Unfortunately for me, I failed to update my V5C until
February 2022. Because of this fact alone, have I no grounds for
dispute?[/quote]
Oh dear, we see rather too many cases like yours of failure to
update the V5 promptly when moving address. You are now well
past the period when you could have submitted representations
against the PCN itself. Only if you can get the matter reverted
via TEC and a declaration will you be able to submit reps or
just pay the original PCN penalty
Three months delay in updating your V5 is probably fatal to an
Out-of-Time declaration, but not necessarily. You haven't told
us what the original contravention was for, but if you found no
PCN on the vehicle, it looks like a postal PCN served under the
London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003. If
so, then to try to get the matter reverted to the original PCN,
you have to submit an Out-of-Time Statutory Declaration to the
Traffic Enforcement Centre. Unfortunately, being OOT means the
council can object to it being granted, and will do so. The TEC
court officer will then refuse your declaration. You can get
this reviewed, but this costs money. WIth the amount now at
£279, your best option is now to pay this, because any bailiff
visit will add to it, which you don't want. Paying the bailiff
does not affect the court process for the OOT SD in any way, so
you should now download the forms, fill them in, and send them
off.
The forms you need are here: -
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/traffic-enforcement-centre-forms
You need forms PE2 and PE3, unless the contravention was for a
parking contravention when it would be TE7 and TE9
You might also contact: -
www.bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
who can advise whether an OOT SD is likely to be accepted or not
based on your circumstances.
Any reason for the late update to your V5 ?
#Post#: 31085--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiff Notice - Islington - Code 52JM Failing to Comply wit
h a prohibition - Canonbury Place
By: mcbassman Date: July 25, 2024, 4:19 am
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Thank you very much for replying.
The lack of update to the V5C was pure negligence on my part, no
excuses.
The contravention was driving into a low traffic neighbourhood,
caught on a CCTV camera.
I will pay the bailiff as you suggest and will follow your very
helpful guidance to see if anything can be done afterwards.
Lessons have been learnt on my part.
#Post#: 107751--------------------------------------------------
Re: Bailiff Notice - Islington - Code 52JM Failing to Comply wit
h a prohibition - Canonbury Place
By: maxxxpayne Date: January 28, 2026, 1:27 pm
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[quote author=mcbassman link=topic=2621.msg31085#msg31085
date=1721899143]
Thank you very much for replying.
The lack of update to the V5C was pure negligence on my part, no
excuses.
The contravention was driving into a low traffic neighbourhood,
caught on a CCTV camera.
I will pay the bailiff as you suggest and will follow your very
helpful guidance to see if anything can be done afterwards.
Lessons have been learnt on my part.
[/quote]
Hi There,
Did you get any closure on this? We had exactly the same thing
in Islington council and found out yesterday.
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Re: Bailiff Notice - Islington - Code 52JM Failing to Comply wit
h a prohibition - Canonbury Place
By: fraser.mitchell Date: January 28, 2026, 2:37 pm
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[quote author=maxxxpayne link=topic=2621.msg107751#msg107751
date=1769628428]
[quote author=mcbassman link=topic=2621.msg31085#msg31085
date=1721899143]
Thank you very much for replying.
The lack of update to the V5C was pure negligence on my part, no
excuses.
The contravention was driving into a low traffic neighbourhood,
caught on a CCTV camera.
I will pay the bailiff as you suggest and will follow your very
helpful guidance to see if anything can be done afterwards.
Lessons have been learnt on my part.
[/quote]
Hi There,
Did you get any closure on this? We had exactly the same thing
in Islington council and found out yesterday.
[/quote]
You may not hear back from the OP here, so if you want advice,
please start your own thread, where advice will be freely given.
However, be aware that failure to promptly update V5Cs when
moving address and hence not receiving a PCN and subsequent
documents is usually very hard to overturn. If yoou're wondering
how the bailiffs tracked you down when the council only have
your oold V5C address, their livelihood depends on being
diligent and proactive in seeking out "disappeared" PCN
recipients. Also note that there is no possibility whatsoever of
you getting a CCJ from this
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