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       #Post#: 30794--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: b789
       Date: July 23, 2024, 6:56 am
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       --- Quote from: johnboy1967 link ---
       >
       > I will contact DVLA today. So which letter should I use to
       send appeal. The driver has asked me to say thank you all so
       much for all the help you have already provided.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I suggest you send the following text as the appeal from the
       keeper:
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       > As the keeper of the vehicle, I decline to identify the
       driver. I deny that I owe any debt and challenge the Parking
       Charge Notice (PCN) [PCN Number] issued on [Date] at [Location],
       in which you allege that the driver is liable to pay a parking
       charge to you, Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd, as the creditor.
       >
       > The signage at the car park clearly states that the creditor
       is Walton Wilkins trading as Premier Parking Logistics Ltd, not
       Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd. Since Premier Parking
       Enforcement Ltd has issued the PCN but is not the named creditor
       on the signage, you do not have the legal standing to enforce
       this charge.
       >
       > Therefore, I suggest that the PCN be cancelled immediately. If
       Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd believes they have the authority
       to act on behalf of Premier Parking Logistics Ltd, I suggest
       that they provide evidence of this authority, such as a contract
       or agency agreement between the two companies.
       >
       > Additionally, I require evidence of a contract flowing between
       the landowner and either Premier Parking Logistics Ltd or
       Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd. Neither company are
       stakeholders in the land, and without such a contract, there is
       no basis for either company to issue or enforce a PCN on this
       property.
       >
       > I do not wish to engage in a secondary appeal through the
       Independent Appeals Service (IAS), as their reputation as a
       biased and non-independent body makes it a waste of time for all
       parties involved. Any offer of such an appeal will be
       disregarded.
       >
       > Please take careful note, as this appeal will be used in
       evidence should this dispute ever reach court. If you refuse to
       cancel the PCN, there must be no passing or transfer of my
       details to a third-party debt recovery agent (DRA). Instead, you
       should issue a claim for the alleged debt in the County Court,
       where I will vigorously defend myself and you can expect a
       thorough examination by the judge.
       >
       > Furthermore, any deviation from this requested path, including
       involving a third party for debt collection, will be considered
       harassment under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 and a
       breach of GDPR under the Data Protection Act 2018. Such actions
       may result in a Part 20 counterclaim against you for any
       distress and inconvenience caused by these breaches.
       --- End Quote ---
       #Post#: 30814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: johnboy1967
       Date: July 23, 2024, 8:12 am
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       You just couldn't make this lot up, there is no viable email
       address on that page. Should I phone them to get the correct
       appeal address. ppeappeals.atriahub.co.uk I can imagine it could
       be ppeappeals@riahub.co.uk but is it done deliberately to
       prevent appeals.
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/qFZezQC
       #Post#: 30815--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: b789
       Date: July 23, 2024, 8:24 am
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  HTML https://ppeappeals.atriahub.co.uk
       works for me. Just use the
       webform. Keep a copy of what you actually paste into the
       webform.
       Or, email the pdf attachment to
       info@premierparkingenforcementltd.com
       Or simply email the appeal as the body of the message.
       Make sure you CC in yourself.
       #Post#: 30816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: July 23, 2024, 8:33 am
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       Ideally submit this online, via the website listed on the notice
       you've shared, linked above by b789
       #Post#: 30821--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: johnboy1967
       Date: July 23, 2024, 8:55 am
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       Done it. I had tried to email the address when in fact it was a
       webpage. All sent and notification received that they have got
       the appeal. Thank you all for your patience and effort. I will
       let you know the outcome
       #Post#: 30823--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: slapdash
       Date: July 23, 2024, 9:48 am
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       If you are trying not to out the driver your post 13 does just
       that.
       #Post#: 30824--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: b789
       Date: July 23, 2024, 9:58 am
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       --- Quote from: slapdash link ---
       >
       > If you are trying not to out the driver your post 13 does just
       that.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It doesn't really matter in this case as the PoFA technical
       failure would never be accepted by the PPC nor the IAS.
       #Post#: 30868--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: johnboy1967
       Date: July 23, 2024, 3:20 pm
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       I have received an email from this company. I have removed names
       and reg but can put them in if needed, it reads as follows....
       Any advice on how I proceed with this.
       Thanks
       PCN: 3 - VRM: Y UNAUTHORISED PARKING
       Yahoo
       /
       Inbox
       Premier Parking Enforcement
       
       From:
       info@premierparkingenforcementltd.com
       To:
       j
       Tue, 23 Jul at 14:51
       Thank you for the email,
       I have read and investigated your particular appeal and
       unfortunately your claim has been unsuccessful for the following
       reasons:
       Parking is for Patrons only while they are using the Pepes
       Premises, you failed to provide proof of purchase of using the
       shop and was seen walking past the premises.
       You were issued with a parking charge notice for: UNAUTHORISED
       PARKING
       this is private land and the terms and conditions state: PARKING
       IS PERMITTED FOR PATRONS ONLY WHILE THEY ARE USING THE PREMISES
       AND PARKED IN THE DESIGNATED BAY.
       Please see Photographic Evidence at www.payppe.co.uk (This is
       not a link) of your vehicle failing to comply with the sites
       terms and conditions
       If you believe this decision is incorrect you are entitled to
       appeal to the independent Appeal Service (IAS) in order to
       appeal,You will need you Reference number,your vehicle
       registration and the date the charge was originally issued.
       Appeals must be submitted to the IAS within 21 date of the above
       date to be added to the site within 24 hours. Please visit
       www.theias.org for full details
       Please note that should you wish to Appeal to the IAS the charge
       will be £100 if rejected.
       To avoid further actions you will need to make a payment of £60
       This is to be paid at the reduced rate within 14days,which needs
       to be paid within 14days of the above date
       failing to pay in the required time will incur further costs.
       Payment can be made on our 24 hour Telephone payment line
       01302513249 or can be paid by cheque or postal order to the
       address at the bottom of the mail.
       PLEASE NOTE YOUR APPEAL HAS BEEN REJECTED THEREFORE WE ARE
       UNABLE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS APPEAL.
       Regards,
       Premier Parking Enforcement Ltd
       By accepting receipt of this information you agree to use this
       information in line with GDPR, the Data Protection Act 1998 and
       any other relevant legislation and guidelines. Privacy Policy at
       info@premierparkinglogistics.com/privacy-policy
       Tel: 0121 236 1878
       Email: info@premierparkinglogistics.com
       Address:
       Block 3, Mint Drive,
       Hockley, Birmingham
       B18 6EA
       #Post#: 30869--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: July 23, 2024, 3:37 pm
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       Ha! That might be a world record for the quickest appeal
       rejection we've seen.
       Essentially, unless you want to chance your arm with the
       kangaroo court that is the IAS*, it's a case of waiting to see
       if they try to sue. In the meantime, await the response to your
       DVLA subject access request too.
       *part of me would be curious to see how they would deal with an
       appeal that raises the sole issue of the creditor being
       different to the one on the signage.
       #Post#: 30877--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Mistakenly thought parking was for row of shops
   DIR By: johnboy1967
       Date: July 23, 2024, 4:43 pm
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       I will happily take your advice and wait to see what they do. I
       too was shocked at the rapid reply.
       I will keep you advised on progress.
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