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PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: Max1111
Date: July 19, 2024, 9:53 am
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Hello
I recently received a PCN for waiting in my car on a footpath.
Please refer to the photo I have attached. The footpath is one
where cars drive through and go past the gate (which can be seen
in the photo) to get to their properties. I did wait here
outside the gate for perhaps 20 minutes.
I would like to know if the PCN is valid because I was not
blocking anyone or anything and was in my car, and cars do have
drive through here to get to the properties beyond the gate. Is
what is in the image even a "footpath"?!
Location: O/S 248-264 Earl's Court Road SW5
The applicant is Transport for London.
Thank you for your time.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/zQJw3Oo
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: Max1111
Date: July 19, 2024, 9:57 am
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I am unable to upload the photo because an error window pops
stating: "the upload folder is full"
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 19, 2024, 10:14 am
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> I am unable to upload the photo because an error window pops
stating: "the upload folder is full"
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You need to have a read of
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
Use an external hosting site such as imgur or ibb.co and post
the BBCodes here.
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: Chijiki
Date: July 19, 2024, 10:15 am
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Max,
Read this READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!**, This
section is for council, TFL, Dart/Mersey/Tyne etc. cases
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: Max1111
Date: July 19, 2024, 10:36 am
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Thanks guys. I have just uploaded the link to the photo in my
original post.
#Post#: 30420--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 19, 2024, 1:14 pm
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You were waiting on a driveway that crosses the footway. This is
not permitted, hence the PCN. However see what the others say.
If you were waiting for a vehicle to exit, before driving past
the gate you would have a good argument, but your narrative
suggests this is not the case.
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: slapdash
Date: July 19, 2024, 1:51 pm
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You clearly were blocking in as much as people were having to
navigate round you. But that is not relevant to the issue of the
ticket.
However if you provide a street view link and upload the PCN
there may be something.
Was the ticket served on the vehicle or by post.
Also why were you waiting 20 minutes. That seems a long time in
the normal course of events and may lead to something.
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: Max1111
Date: July 20, 2024, 8:06 am
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I received a charge certificate at my mum's address. I have
changed my address a long time ago with DVLA so I don't know why
they still send letters there.
I was waiting there because my mum had an appointment nearby.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/6L15cjJ
I was hoping that what they have called a footpath is not a
footpath. And also, whilst I was waiting there, beyond the gate
a BT van had parked and if I had gone through the gate I would
have been stuck behind it. I did want to drive through and then
do a U-turn but I could not so I stayed where I was.
Is there any other ground on which I may fight this PCN?
Many thanks for your time.
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: slapdash
Date: July 20, 2024, 8:29 am
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You didn't "change your address with the DVLA". (There's no such
thing).
I imagine you changed your driving licence and didn't notice the
big box reminding you you might need to change V5c for any
vehicles you have.
I would expect, since the CC has gone to mum, that your V5c is
showing that address.
Mum should have received previous notices.
Sight of what you have may be useful (only redacting name and
address). There may be issues with it.
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Re: PCN for Contravention 62
DIR By: Max1111
Date: July 20, 2024, 8:40 am
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"I imagine you changed your driving licence and didn't notice
the big box reminding you you might need to change V5c for any
vehicles you have."
"I would expect, since the CC has gone to mum, that your V5c is
showing that address."
That is right, I renewed my licence with the new address. So V5c
would indeed show mum's address. Thank you for pointing that
out!
Mum didn't receive the original PCN, just a document called
"Order for Recovery" and from there I went and filled out a TE9
Form. Court accepted and said I still need to contact the
authority because the original PCN has not been cancelled.
Is the link with the PCN details sufficient?
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