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       #Post#: 30065--------------------------------------------------
       Newham, Sebert Road E7, 53J Failing to comply with a restriction
       on vehicles entering pedestrian zone
   DIR By: Jazzydriver
       Date: July 16, 2024, 11:35 am
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       hello there,
       Unfortunately, I accidentally drove through a Safer Streets area
       near Woodgrange Primary School. The timings for this are
       different to other ones in my area and I just made a mistake by
       a few minutes.
       Is there anything I can do to appeal please?!
       Here is a copy of the PCN
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       Thank you!
       JD
       #Post#: 30094--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham, Sebert Road E7, 53J Failing to comply with a
       restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian zone
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 16, 2024, 3:39 pm
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       So, you were 5 minutes too early, the restriction ending at 4
       pm. Presumably not a Blue Badge holder or H1 permit holder ?
       Have you looked at the video of the alleged contravention yet ?
       Did you approach the restriction on Sebert Road or Avenue Road
       Two things come to mind, (1) there is a lot of information to
       read and digest as one approaches the sign, and (2) the advance
       warning sign on Avenue Road merely advises of a No Left Turn
       restriction without advising of the other restrictions. So this
       sign could be considered not to reflect the Traffic Order that
       the signs are telling you about.
       Other thing is how they enforce by CCTV and then know whether
       the driver of the car is a BB holder or not. Clearly they cannot
       know, so the poor old BB holder gets a PCN like the rest and has
       to submit representations to get the PCN overturned, but may
       just cough-up, not remembering the restrictions on the sign.
       #Post#: 30795--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham, Sebert Road E7, 53J Failing to comply with a
       restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian zone
   DIR By: Jazzydriver
       Date: July 23, 2024, 7:04 am
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       Hi there
       I came from Sebert Road directly from Woodgrange Road.
       Are there any grounds to appeal from the fact that the sign does
       have a lot of information on it?
       Many thanks
       JD
       #Post#: 30809--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Newham, Sebert Road E7, 53J Failing to comply with a
       restriction on vehicles entering pedestrian zone
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: July 23, 2024, 7:53 am
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       Signs with a large amount of content on them are open to
       challenge as impossible to read and understand from a moving
       car, but here it is 20 mph, so not as strong as if it were
       30mph.
       Maybe something on these lines: -
       Dear Sirs
       Re PCN <PCN Number> dated <dd/mm/yyyy> for alleged contravention
       at Sebert Road on 01/07/2024 at 15.55
       I challenge this PCN on the basis that the contravention did not
       occur, de minimis, and also that the sig
       n for this restriction contains so much information it is
       impossible to read and understand it before it is passed.
       I passed the sign within 5 minutes of the end of the restricted
       period, and consider to impose such a harsh penalty, (a minimum
       of £65 with the discount) is disproportionate for such a trivial
       transgression. In addition, the sign permits Blue Badge holders
       to pass the sign during the restrictions, but there is not means
       by which you can detect, by camera, whether the person who drove
       past the sign holds a Blue Badge, so one assumes you serve a PCN
       and wait for the Blue Badge holder to go through the rigamarole
       of submitting representations against the PCN. This is surely an
       abuse of your powers to enforce using CCTV.
       I therefore request that the PCN be cancelled.
       Yours faithfully
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