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#Post#: 29433--------------------------------------------------
PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road Eastbound)(X3A) -
realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: scarter1
Date: July 10, 2024, 1:29 pm
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[justify]I'll attach the PCN. The location/direction is exactly
the same as in this post.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-for-ltn-52(m)-haringey-help-with-appeal-please-(representation-rejected)/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1qm7BSXp-m8Binllqk6JbINDkh39H19uBOcEJOiq5VmchXONwPRzjnQvs_aem_GLbsZkN70ACZijqjXy5YdQ..
I still have 3 days to pay. I've not made any representations
yet.
Only thing I have in my defence (if any) is I realised I had
entered the LTN just after passing the planters. So I
immediately pulled up, did a u-turn, and exited where I came
from.
The video evidence supplied shows me immediately pulling up, but
not u-turning, cutting off before that.
I'm not sure if this can help in any way. Do I have any
approach?
- PCN Nummber: ZN1293681A
- Car reg: GD15WKY
- Evidence site with video: link
HTML https://haringey.tarantoportal.com/PCNs
Apologies for the late message, and poor formatting of this
message. Came back to this from hols, then spent time on the FB
group, before finally getting the email verification email for
this site just now.
Any help appreciated.
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#Post#: 29434--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: scarter1
Date: July 10, 2024, 1:35 pm
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Unable to attach screenshot of the PCN to this message. I keep
getting a "The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file
and/or contact an administrator."
#Post#: 29437--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 10, 2024, 1:46 pm
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--- Quote from: scarter1 link ---
>
> Unable to attach screenshot of the PCN to this message. I keep
getting a "The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file
and/or contact an administrator."
>
--- End Quote ---
That's because you need to read the guidance here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/,<br
/>which tells you how to upload images correctly.
Here's the video:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A40XYPcJUR8
It looks like you pulled over on the pedestrian zig-zags for
some reason?
Please upload the PCN, also do you have any mitigation
unconnected to the contravention itself?
#Post#: 29439--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: scarter1
Date: July 10, 2024, 2:32 pm
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I'll upload after the match or tomorrow. To answer your question
I turned around immediately after the bollards and exited.
I made a mistake, knew immediately, and tried to rectify it.
#Post#: 29444--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: scarter1
Date: July 10, 2024, 4:47 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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> [quote author=scarter1 link=topic=2485.msg29434#msg29434
date=1720636513]
> Please upload the PCN, also do you have any mitigation
unconnected to the contravention itself?
>
--- End Quote ---
No mitigation, at least none of those on the presentations list
on the back of the PCN.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/9J5CvJ6.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/m3DhH77.jpeg
#Post#: 29450--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 10, 2024, 6:48 pm
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--- Quote from: scarter1 link ---
>
> No mitigation, at least none of those on the presentations
list on the back of the PCN.
>
--- End Quote ---
Forget about what's on the back of the PCN, do you have anything
else?
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Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: scarter1
Date: July 11, 2024, 6:56 am
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What counts as a mitigation?
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Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: scarter1
Date: July 12, 2024, 1:56 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> [quote author=scarter1 link=topic=2485.msg29444#msg29444
date=1720648049]
> No mitigation, at least none of those on the presentations
list on the back of the PCN.
>
--- End Quote ---
Forget about what's on the back of the PCN, do you have anything
else?
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Saying again in case you need the quote to see my response.
What counts as a mitigation?
AFAIK there's nothing else, apart from the fact I realised my
mistake immediately and turned around immediately to exit.
#Post#: 29698--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 12, 2024, 3:29 pm
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--- Quote from: scarter1 link ---
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> What counts as a mitigation?
>
--- End Quote ---
Recent bereavements, health issues, family issues, financial
difficulties, anything like that.
You don't need to pay at this stage, even if you just put in a
representation saying "the contravention did not occur" that
will get the discount extended, but we can probably come up with
something better than that.
#Post#: 29702--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN for Downhills Park Road N17 (Walpole Road
Eastbound)(X3A) - realised mistake so uturned out.
DIR By: scarter1
Date: July 12, 2024, 4:05 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
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> [quote author=scarter1 link=topic=2485.msg29488#msg29488
date=1720698988]
> What counts as a mitigation?
>
--- End Quote ---
Recent bereavements, health issues, family issues, financial
difficulties, anything like that.
You don't need to pay at this stage, even if you just put in a
representation saying "the contravention did not occur" that
will get the discount extended, but we can probably come up with
something better than that.
[/quote]
Unfortunately not. Nothing of the kind.
I realise this probably has a slim to nill chance of me
fighting/winning. It's a money maker for them, so the fact I
realised my mistake and tried to undo it won't count for
anything.
But I would welcome any advice or representations.
"Date of this Notice" is listed as 01/07/2024, so I'm not sure
if the cut off for the extension/repesentations includes this
Sunday or not.
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