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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: gumph69
Date: September 15, 2023, 2:57 pm
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From photos 2-3 on the TFL website 'PCN details', it seems to
show that the rear of my car, though partially in the junction
box, did not cross the extension of Sunnyhill Rd. No cars were
in the least prevented from exiting from or turning onto
Sunnyhill. And, it is not a pedestrian crossing
The 'discount' still seems to be on offer
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 17, 2023, 3:06 pm
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The red lines represents an extension of the kerb-line of the
side-road, while the blue line is where I estimate your rear
bumper was when you stopped:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/CFsLQOE.png
I don't see how I could argue your car was not at the junction.
On balance my disinterested advice at this point is to pay, you
need to decide what you want to do.
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: gumph69
Date: September 17, 2023, 5:15 pm
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I appreicate your frankness
It seems that you do not think that the blemishes in the PCN and
response to the Representations are sufficient to have a
reasonable chance of success if I go to the Tribunals
I really feel caught out by this one, especially I caused no
obstruction
Thank you
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: gumph69
Date: September 18, 2023, 3:44 pm
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I went last night to throw in the towel and pay the discount
rate
It had gone up to £160
I only received the representations rejection last week, far few
days than the 14-days mentioned in the rejection
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 18, 2023, 5:39 pm
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Well obviously TFL can't know how long the rejection took to
arrive in the post. On the other hand, if there's nothing to be
lost you might as well appeal.
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: gumph69
Date: September 19, 2023, 11:09 am
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I have just contacted TFL about the 14-day discount period that
was re-offered in the Representatioins rejections letter. The
letter was dated 1 Sep but not received until 12 Sep
I went to pay the £80 discount yeterday, 18 Sep, only to
discover that it had changed to £160
According to the TFL agent, the discount period is dated from
the date on the letter, not on the date of service, with no
allowance at all for the letter to arrive. Thus, the discount
period ended on 15 Sep
The agent had no idea when, exactly, the letter was actually
posted. And, understandably, could not account for the length of
time RM took to deliver the letter. There was no back-up email
regarding the rejection
The agent was unwilling to re-instate the discount, even though
I offer to pay it immediately
I have no choice now but to appeal to the LT
Any advice as to how to frame the appeal will be appreciated
Thank you
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 20, 2023, 4:00 pm
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I've won a case on this point before, see Nayeem Haque v
Transport for London (2220767288, 15 November 2022)
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1KavlK0nNvWS2eI9ICkqjBQRg9-L-2mHc.
Would you like me to represent you at the tribunal?
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: gumph69
Date: September 20, 2023, 4:21 pm
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Yes, please
Thank you so much
I will file the appeal in the next couple days
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 21, 2023, 5:45 pm
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--- Quote from: gumph69 link ---
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> I will file the appeal in the next couple days
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Please don't do that, I'll email you directly.
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Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 19, 2023, 7:52 am
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Outcome
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1ijJW4O3zHz-LOkVRi4QHmdf983n1yyJ8.
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