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       #Post#: 3113--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: gumph69
       Date: August 11, 2023, 4:32 pm
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       I received the DVD last this evening
       I am not sure how to share it with the Forum
       Thank you
       #Post#: 3114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: gumph69
       Date: August 11, 2023, 4:42 pm
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       It seems that the car in front of me stopped way short of the
       car in from of him, leaving me with insufficient room to clear
       the juntion box. I slowed but had already entered the box in
       reasonable anticipation that the car in front of me would leave
       me with sufficient space. When they stopped with a large space
       in front of them, the back half of my car was forced to stop for
       about 5 seconds over the yellow lines
       #Post#: 3117--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: MrChips
       Date: August 11, 2023, 5:56 pm
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       Best way to share it is to either upload to youtube/vimeo or to
       a dropbox folder or similar and post up a link.
       #Post#: 3126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: gumph69
       Date: August 12, 2023, 6:02 am
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       I hope this link works
  HTML https://youtu.be/V0qyTv1eZh8
       #Post#: 3129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 12, 2023, 6:32 am
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       Video doesn't show your entry into the box, nor does it show why
       you stopped, therefore is not valid as evidence. However, the
       council will stonewall, so you'd have to go to London Tribunals.
       #Post#: 3130--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: August 12, 2023, 6:34 am
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       Does the box extend too far past the corner?
  HTML https://goo.gl/maps/VEUMv2EhCVRdR17d9
       or is it substantially compliant?
       #Post#: 3134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: gumph69
       Date: August 12, 2023, 7:36 am
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       Doesn't the second camera view in the video show me entering the
       box?
       #Post#: 3146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: gumph69
       Date: August 12, 2023, 12:10 pm
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       Reminder:
       The PCN was issued 13/7
       PCN received 23/7
       Requested DVD from TFL 24/7. Will take up to 14 days; On hold
       until 7/8
       7/8 rang TFL to inform them that DVD not recd. Told that it can
       take ’14 working days’
       Received DVD 11/8
       Not sure when the discount period ends or if I have a case.
       After watching the video, this seems rather harsh. I was not
       ignoring the box but I was trapped by the pre-emptive stop of a
       vehicle in front of me. I tried to keep moving but it seems I
       came to a full stop for 5 seconds. I did not prevent anyone from
       turning or using a different lane
       From TFL website:
       PCN status history
       10 August 2023
       On Hold: SUS20 - Enquiry Received (25/08/2023)
       N/A
       08 August 2023
       On Hold: SUS54 - DTES Footage Request (23/08/2023)
       N/A
       08 August 2023
       On Hold: SUS54 - DTES Footage Request (23/08/2023)
       N/A
       07 August 2023
       On Hold: SUS20 - Enquiry Received
       N/A
       24 July 2023
       On Hold: SUS20 - Enquiry Received (07/08/2023)
       N/A
       13 July 2023
       PCN Batched
       N/A
       #Post#: 3150--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: Pastmybest
       Date: August 12, 2023, 3:02 pm
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       Incandescent is correct they cannot say why you entered the box
       nor what prevented you from exiting so they had no reason to
       believe a contravention occurred
       #Post#: 3151--------------------------------------------------
       Re: TFL yellow box-Streatham contravention 31
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 12, 2023, 3:22 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
       >
       > Incandescent is correct they cannot say why you entered the
       box nor what prevented you from exiting so they had no reason to
       believe a contravention occurred
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Like you I stopped the video after the OP's car left the box,
       but there is a second video on the same file taken from a birds
       eye camera. However, I do have my doubts about this use of two
       cameras as there is no link between them in terms of the reg
       number of the vehicle.
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