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CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: oilcan4777
Date: July 10, 2024, 10:29 am
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I received a PCN to Keeper from CSPM for £100 about 5 weeks ago
for unauthorised parking at Hereford College student carpark.
The driver, as a student, has permission to park in this
carpark, but the procedure to do so requires that they sign in
the car they are driving using a tablet present at the
reception. The driver forgot to sign in on the tablet on
arrival, however realised only at midday and then signed in
straight away. There is no payment for parking as student of the
college only a matter of authorisation, which the driver has.
The charge notice has not been challenged or paid and another
demand for payment from Debt Recovery Plus has been received
increasing the demand to £170.
Please can you advise on how to proceed with this situation,
thank you
Please see attached both notices
HTML https://imgur.com/a/RuX7eos
HTML https://i.imgur.com/9oNIn2z.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/8YVrPNC.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/xqpj9wC.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/e5FGQ1a.jpeg
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Re: CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: b789
Date: July 10, 2024, 11:50 am
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It's a pity the keeper didn't do anything about this earlier as
they could have tried an appeal to POPLA. Too late to do
anything about that now. As far as the debt collector letter, it
can be safely ignored. All debt collector demands are to be
ignored and no contact with them should be made, at all, under
any circumstances.
What has the keeper done about Plan A which is to ask the
landowner, presumably the college, to get their agent to cancel
the PCN? That is by far the easiest way to del with this and can
be dome at any time up to the issuance of county court claim.
The keeper must now wait and see whether CPSM bother to take the
keeper to court. Even if they do, there is no guarantee that
they will actually let it go as far as a hearing. They could, as
in many cases, simply discontinue once they realise that the
keeper is not low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree and will
not simply capitulate once idle debt collector threats start and
are willing to defend any unjust claim.
So, Plan A first. Plans B and C have gone. Plan D, if plan A
doesn't work, will be the final one, if/when CPSM decide to
actually go to litigation.
For now, please check the CPSM website as though to appeal and
see what other evidential photos they have and show us.
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Re: CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: Dave65
Date: July 11, 2024, 4:00 am
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Can you provide a photo of the signage and any instructions were
the sign in tablet is?
This is to see if it states a time that you have to sign in at.
#Post#: 29512--------------------------------------------------
Re: CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: oilcan4777
Date: July 11, 2024, 10:52 am
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--- Quote from: Dave65 link ---
>
> Can you provide a photo of the signage and any instructions
where the sign in tablet is?
>
> This is to see if it states a time that you have to sign in
at.
>
--- End Quote ---
This is the signage I was able to collect from Google maps:
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This is the entrance to the car park, no specific signage about
car park rules at this point
HTML https://i.imgur.com/5DoyclV.png
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the signage inside the carpark, I don't have an image where the
sign is readable
HTML https://i.imgur.com/yxenmJe.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/DOh3go1.png
There are no extra instructions around the tablet, the users
just input their college ID and their registration
#Post#: 29595--------------------------------------------------
Re: CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: Dave65
Date: July 12, 2024, 4:15 am
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Those signs are too blurry to read, would need clearer view of
them to see what it says about signing in.
If there is no time indicated to sign in by this could help you.
#Post#: 29935--------------------------------------------------
Re: CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: oilcan4777
Date: July 15, 2024, 11:06 am
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I will see if I can get someone I know to get a clear picture of
the carpark signs
Thanks
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Re: CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: b789
Date: July 15, 2024, 11:25 am
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Even if they were crystal clear, those signs would be inadequate
to bring to the attention of the driver the charge for breaching
the terms.
Here is the Beavis sign. It could be as blurred and you'd still
notice the charge!
HTML https://i.imgur.com/mnywOsq.jpeg
#Post#: 29969--------------------------------------------------
Re: CSPM PCN to Keeper - unauthorised parking - Hereford College
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 16, 2024, 2:52 am
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The driver, as a student, has permission to park in this
carpark,
There are no extra instructions around the tablet, the users
just input their college ID and their registration
I will see if I can get someone I know to get a clear picture of
the carpark signs
??
But the driver is a student there, so I can't understand this
difficulty. Also, what other instructions/communications etc. do
students receive in their joining packs regarding the do's and
don'ts of the campus?
We're looking at collecting and assessing evidence now but
ultimately the ball is in the creditor's court.
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