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#Post#: 34419--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: August 23, 2024, 4:08 pm
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When you say provide copy of your reps? What does that mean?
The Orders for Recovery will include a Witness Statement and
Statutory Declaration respectively. You would complete these -
tick a box and get this witnessed if required- and submit to the
Traffic Enforcement Centre who gave the authority the right to
issue the OfRs solely on their say-so that they had followed set
procedure.
Your WS/SD are your way of stating to TEC that there has been a
breakdown in communication because you did not receive either
NoR(the statutory response from the council).
Given these conflicting views TEC would revoke the OfRs and
direct the council to cancel their CCs following which the
council must refer the matter to the adjudicator for their
decision on the whole issue. But the adjudicator has the power
to direct you to provide proof of your reps having been made in
time..
hence ..you would provide the adjudicator with a copy of your
reps and that these were submitted in time.
By the way, a CC does not state that you did not make reps in
time does it. It gives several reasons why it might have been
issued - but sadly the law does not require the council to state
which applies, which is odd but there we are.
#Post#: 34420--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: zigzag123
Date: August 23, 2024, 4:19 pm
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Thanks for your response again, a lot to digest.... :-\
#Post#: 36763--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: zigzag123
Date: September 13, 2024, 10:08 am
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Hello, an update: the council have sent two more letters, now
stating due to be registered as a debt in the Northampton County
Court and full payment is required to the council within 7 days
from the date of the letters.
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Still no response from the council in regards to my challenge
letter either.
I'm assuming I still have to wait for the adjudicator process
where I can show that I had responded in good time to the
council with my confirmation emails and submission of
screenshots and that they failed to respond right?
#Post#: 36816--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: zigzag123
Date: September 14, 2024, 4:47 am
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Wait for the OFR, I guess as mentioned in this process:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/moving-traffic-pcn-enforcement-process
#Post#: 36875--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 14, 2024, 12:16 pm
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Yes, except that one PCN is moving traffic, one is parking.
They have different but very similar procedures:
HTML https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/parking-penalty-charge-notice-enforcement-process
Hopefully the council will move things forward as stated.
Come back here when you receive the first OfR or within 2 weeks
whichever is the earlier.
#Post#: 38375--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: zigzag123
Date: September 26, 2024, 4:55 am
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Thanks H C Andersen, much appreciated.
:)
#Post#: 45743--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: zigzag123
Date: November 15, 2024, 8:05 am
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Hello all,
Received the Order for Recovery for one of the PCNs only today.
Attached are the files:
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HTML https://ibb.co/mq8bJ63
HTML https://i.ibb.co/Gv3Rttz/1000010022.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/ns8jnnx
HTML https://i.ibb.co/mb5tPRc/1000010023.jpg
HTML https://ibb.co/2W3PpFk
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#Post#: 45744--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: zigzag123
Date: November 15, 2024, 8:21 am
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Ok is this how I should proceed?
1. Fill in the form TE9 Witness Statement - unpaid penalty
charge using the information from the TE3 form.
2. Tick one box in this case the second tick box
'I made representations about the penalty charge to the
enforcing authority concerned within 28 days of the service of
the Notice to Owner, but did not receive a rejection notice'
3. Sign the 'Statement of Truth'
Date it
Print full name
Send it via post or go online to TEC@justice.gov.uk ??
Thanks
#Post#: 45745--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: zigzag123
Date: November 15, 2024, 8:23 am
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:)
#Post#: 46119--------------------------------------------------
Re: Received 2 PCN from Barking & Dagenham Borough within 30
minutes
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 18, 2024, 3:35 pm
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This is not a guessing game. Hurdles are not put in the way to
trap the unwary.
It is a standard procedure executed '00s or possibly more times
a week.
Your cases are not unique.
Simply follow instructions as in:
Tick the box(made reps etc);
Sign;
Return to TEC as instructed, preferably online.
Simples!
The SD procedure is slightly different, but we'll guide when
you're there.
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