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       Re: No Right Turn = No U Turn ?
   DIR By: Grant Urismo
       Date: July 25, 2024, 5:26 am
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       --- Quote from: DrSatan link ---
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       > Yeah, you're hosed.
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       I don't think it's that clear-cut. The signage has to make the
       effect of the traffic order clear. I think I'd be chancing an
       appeal if I was in this situation on the grounds that both a
       no-u-turn and no-right-turn sign should be present if the
       traffic order prohibits both. If there isn't an allowed left
       turn at the location I think you'd have a strong case that an
       'ahead only' sign should have been used.
       I think you'd be on very strong grounds if you can find a
       location where the same council have stacked these 2 signs that
       you could show to an adjudicator.
       #Post#: 31253--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No Right Turn = No U Turn ?
   DIR By: John_S
       Date: July 26, 2024, 3:30 am
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       --- Quote from: Grant Urismo link ---
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       > I think you'd be on very strong grounds if you can find a
       location where the same council have stacked these 2 signs that
       you could show to an adjudicator.
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       @Grant_Urismo you make some very good points - Portland Place
       (s/b) j/o Devonshire Street springs to mind re stacked signs.
       There are several other examples in Central London but I can’t
       think of any others on Westminster’s roads.
       Back to Aldwych... the only fly in the ointment is the markings
       in the centre of the junction with Wellington Street and the
       various Orders that exist for that junction.
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       Re: No Right Turn = No U Turn ?
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: July 26, 2024, 4:53 am
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       --- Quote from: John_S link ---
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       > [member=24]Hippocrates[/member], 224007474A appears to relate
       to Ilford High Road, west of Seven Kings Road. Whilst this seems
       to be a very interesting case, where the driver appears to turn
       right against a no-u-turn sign - I was thinking of this the
       other-way-around. What if the driver had u-turned against a NRT
       sign?
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       There were two separate signs actually, each respectively
       pertaining to each different contravention. And the Adjudicator
       raised a point not made by the appellant (me as rep.).
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