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#Post#: 28663--------------------------------------------------
PCN from Westminster council ticket on restricted street. No
road markings.Wrong postcode?
DIR By: FindThatLegalAngle
Date: July 4, 2024, 12:00 pm
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Hi,need some help with this situation..
We have recently received a windscreen ticket on 15/06/2024
around 21:40pm for a CODE 02 - parked or loading/unloading in a
restricted street where waiting and loading/unloading
restrictions are in force.
However..
1. The online postcode for Clifford st (Westminster) is W1S 2LG.
The street address on the tickets says Clifford st (E1). If this
is the case then this ticket is incorrect.
2. Clifford st ( Westminster) is a one way street. There are no
visible signs for a driver approaching the street at night from
one of the side entrances to the one way street.
3.There are no yellow line road markings on this street or
nearby UNLOADING/RESTRICTED signs until you exit the vehicle. On
foot you have to be very observant as they are at the end of the
street and very confusing.
4. The vehicle is also parked outside of the timezones of the
parking time posts.
5. This ticket was appealed within the 14 days- online and a
rejection reply was sent to email. The COUNCIL did not state the
postcode error on the issued windscreen ticket.
6. We have just received the rejection letter and 14 days to pay
discounted amount.
Here is the Google location link for Clifford st :
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/b57CSwaAGdRmnhwv7
Is there an admin error here on the ticket, and can this ticket
be fought effectively?
Here is the windscreen ticket - front :
HTML https://icedrive.net/s/55vvTBG949kuWYWNhZBQYZ826jvG
Here is the windscreen ticket - back :
HTML https://icedrive.net/s/9T8gAihBkXikV4VuD9X2hGTBVPiD
Here is the ONLINE appeal to the council :
HTML https://icedrive.net/s/NzgBTQB3iQR14TxWDy61YbAuwFXu
Here is the Westminster council reply :
HTML https://icedrive.net/s/wuh5BXGxFPfRTS35Bh4v2YBB3zkG
#Post#: 28694--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Westminster council ticket on restricted street. No
road markings.Wrong postcode?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 4, 2024, 3:48 pm
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You've fallen foul of a Restricted Parking Zone, which being a
zone covers several streets with signs at the entrances to the
zone. Good councils also put in repeater signs, but they are
not obligatory.
I've searched around, but can't seem to find what zone Clifford
St is in, but it's very close to New Bond St, where an RPZ was
introduced in 2018. AN RPZ differs from a CPZ in not requiring
any yellow lines, basically, one can only park in marked bays,
with no parking anywhere else.
I found this RPZ sign on Bruton St, but about 15 yards further
on, there is a CPZ sign, so it looks as if Westminster have done
the usual council cock-up with signs. HOwever, you can only turn
right here into New Bond St
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/R8H4rUfp8TwZ1KWo6
So as New Bond St is one-way only, thus making you drive into
CLifford St, it looks as if CLifford St is part of the RPZ.
In truth, the only way will be to look at the Traffic Order for
this RPZ. As far as I can see, the post code issue won't get the
PCN cancelled, but lack of signs might.
So how did you get to where you parked in Clifford St ? From the
road layout and one-way arrangements ? It must surely have been
via New Bond St, and thus you would have passed an RPZ sign.
#Post#: 28842--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Westminster council ticket on restricted street. No
road markings.Wrong postcode?
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 6, 2024, 11:25 am
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[member=2156]FindThatLegalAngle[/member] please read the
guidance here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
/>and re-post the PCN without any redactions. The postcode issue
might be arguable but we need to carry out some basic checks
first, we can't do that if we have nothing to work with.
#Post#: 28858--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN from Westminster council ticket on restricted street. No
road markings.Wrong postcode?
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 6, 2024, 12:30 pm
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Here's the RPZ scheme of 2018: -
www.westminstertransportationservices.co.uk/projects/pdfs/Bond-Street-RPZ-Final.pdf
You'll see CLifford St is within it but only up to Cork St, but
I suspect later on it was extended its full length. So the
latest TRO for the scheme needs looking at.
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