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Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: sophstud
Date: July 2, 2024, 12:34 pm
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I have a blue badge so did not need to pay for parking and
therefore would not have seen a suspension sign on the pay
machine. I turned onto the Lower Byrom from Quay street and
parked in the very first bay.
I then exited onto Quay st. The first suspension sign is not
visible from where I parked my car, as can be (not) seen from
the pics. The car in the pic is not my car but that is where I
parked.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/SvvHAlm.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/AgZokBO.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/zdn5hjP.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/2H1SK38.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/stAHJx2.jpeg
Also annoyed because I'm assuming that had I parked on double
yellows just before the bays, I wouldn't have got a ticket!
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/oJoddvfiNpAT1AEv8
thanks in advance for any help!
#Post#: 28384--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 2, 2024, 3:55 pm
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The sign giving the parking conditions is right by your car, but
the suspension sign would seem to have slipped down the pole, so
is obscured by the green cabinet which I assume is for telephone
cables. So it is not prominent at all.
So I suggest you submit an informal challenge based on your
narrative, pointing out that as a BB holder you do not have to
walk to the ticket machine, and on exiting the car, saw no
suspension sign. The sign was found after you returned to the
car and found the PCN, which was at the bottom of the parking
sign pole, and thus invisible to anybody on the other side of
the roadside green telecoms cabinet. Don't be confrontational or
anything at this stage.
#Post#: 28540--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 3, 2024, 3:45 pm
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Here are the council photos:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/mm9p2ZP.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/1GPQ7qd.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/BxCLKzu.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/nWPApAA.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/e0df2wk.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/GeunUnC.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/WeAC5nj.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/Ts90n7c.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/LAEjCVI.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/voAIuA1.png
[member=763]sophstud[/member] post a draft representation on
here please, in the meantime I'll get hold of the suspension
logs.
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Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: sophstud
Date: July 3, 2024, 3:51 pm
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[member=12]Incandescent[/member]
Hi I was working at the ABC building yesterday morning and
received a ticket for parking in a suspended bay. I entered
Little Byron St from Quay St and parked in the very first bay.
As a blue badge holder, I do not pay for parking and so did not
seek out a ticket machine - if I had, I would’ve seen the signs
and not parked there. Upon entering Little Byron St, the
suspension signs are not visible unless you travel further down
the road. As you can see from the pictures below, the sign was
not visible as it seems to have slipped down so that the green
cabinet is obscuring it. It’s also facing up the street, so you
can’t see it unless you travel along the street. The car in the
picture is not mine, I had already moved it at this stage, but
this was where I parked. I noticed today that the sign has now
been moved so that it is higher up, not obscured and facing down
the street. This is good, so other motorists don’t face the same
problem, but it doesn’t help me with my ticket. I’m really
hoping that this ticket can be cancelled. I did not leave my car
there knowing that I was not supposed to, the sign was simply
obscured. It’s even more frustrating because had I parked on the
double yellows which was next to my bay, I wouldn’t have
received a ticket!
#Post#: 28562--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 3, 2024, 4:56 pm
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That will do for an informal challenge. By the way can you show
us this photo of the sign being moved further up?
#Post#: 28564--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: sophstud
Date: July 3, 2024, 5:00 pm
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Still slightly obscured
#Post#: 28565--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: sophstud
Date: July 3, 2024, 5:05 pm
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Well, that didn't work lol
HTML https://we.tl/t-zJjcqSdLmJ
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Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: July 3, 2024, 5:30 pm
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The problem is the council photos show the suspension sign
reflected in the nearside door glass, and also the windscreen,
thus reducing the impact of your reps somewhat.
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Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 6, 2024, 11:39 am
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Suspension logs & photos:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/42zZMgE.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/GZe7IRo.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/9oxRpgs.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/sHO4YCD.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/v5ge2v5.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/EJpOjLz.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/PtJN24l.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/Z21VrLJ.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/v57LgVV.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/72iNWU9.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/3C87cRa.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/ClHsxNO.jpeg
#Post#: 35940--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council code 21 parked in a suspended bay on
Lower Byrom St
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: September 6, 2024, 2:20 pm
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As a blue badge holder, I do not pay for parking and so did not
seek out a ticket machine - if I had, I would’ve seen the signs
and not parked there..
IMO, not looking is not an option open to you, BB or not. A
motorist is required to check the traffic sign. IMO, your only
plus seems to be that the suspension covered all the bays
covered by the traffic sign which it could be argued should
itself have been covered, but it wasn't. Otherwise, 'I didn't
bother looking because I have a BB' could not succeed at
adjudication IMO.
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