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Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: Giorgio
Date: July 1, 2024, 11:36 am
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Car was parked in a residents bay with blue badge on display.
PCN issued by mistake but it could not be cancelled. All the
pictures taken by the CEO clearly show the blue badge in the
display. How do I request the PCN be cancelled - do I simply say
the PCN was made in error, no contravention occurred as a
permit/badge was clearly displayed? thanks for the help
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#Post#: 28194--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: lexy
Date: July 1, 2024, 12:29 pm
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You can always use a blue badge in a pay and display bay, but
you can't in permit holder only bays. Some councils will let
you, but most won't.
Haringey's website doesn't say whether they do or not. But it
does say that they have special 'blue badge resident permits'
that are valid in permit bays. That makes me think that they
probably don't accept normal blue badges in resident bays.
Otherwise what would be the point of their special permits?
I know the guy said it was issued "by mistake", but they do
sometimes lie to try and de-escalate the situation and avoid a
fight if you catch them in the act of issuing a ticket.
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Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 1, 2024, 12:36 pm
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Car was parked in a residents bay with blue badge on display.
PCN issued by mistake..
You come across as being very sure of your ground, but as
explained a council is not required to allow a BB to be used in
a permit bay.
So why are you so sure? Does this council allow this?
#Post#: 28197--------------------------------------------------
Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: michael
Date: July 1, 2024, 12:44 pm
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Where you can and cannot park
You can park in Haringey for an unlimited amount of time in a:
resident permit holder bay
resident permit holder shared-use bay (resident permit and
pay by phone)
permit holder bay
permit holder shared-use bay (permit holder and pay by
phone)
disabled bay (except dedicated disabled bay)
pay by phone only bay
You cannot park:
in a dedicated disabled (Blue Badge) bay – only permit
holders with a permit showing that bay reference can park there
in a private car park, including council housing estates and
roads – these have separate parking conditions as shown by the
entrance signs
when a loading restriction is in place – see signs and
markings on the side of the pavement
HTML https://new.haringey.gov.uk/parking/parking-permits/disabled/resident-Blue-Badge
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Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: Giorgio
Date: July 1, 2024, 12:54 pm
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Sorry for not being clearer. Yes, my understanding is that it's
permitted.
I have just checked on Haringey website and found this:
HTML https://new.haringey.gov.uk/parking/parking-permits/disabled/resident-Blue-Badge
Where you can and cannot park
You can park in Haringey for an unlimited amount of time in a:
resident permit holder bay
resident permit holder shared-use bay (resident permit and pay
by phone)
permit holder bay
permit holder shared-use bay (permit holder and pay by phone)
disabled bay (except dedicated disabled bay)
pay by phone only bay
Does this mean that the CEO was in error and we can have the PCN
cancelled?
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Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: Giorgio
Date: July 1, 2024, 12:56 pm
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--- Quote from: michael link ---
>
> Where you can and cannot park
>
> You can park in Haringey for an unlimited amount of time in a:
>
> resident permit holder bay
> resident permit holder shared-use bay (resident permit and pay
by phone)
> permit holder bay
> permit holder shared-use bay (permit holder and pay by phone)
> disabled bay (except dedicated disabled bay)
> pay by phone only bay
>
> You cannot park:
>
> in a dedicated disabled (Blue Badge) bay – only permit holders
with a permit showing that bay reference can park there
> in a private car park, including council housing estates and
roads – these have separate parking conditions as shown by the
entrance signs
> when a loading restriction is in place – see signs and
markings on the side of the pavement
>
>
>
HTML https://new.haringey.gov.uk/parking/parking-permits/disabled/resident-Blue-Badge
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks for checking- you beat me to it!
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Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: slapdash
Date: July 1, 2024, 1:03 pm
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That page applies to the resident blue badge scheme. Which you
don't have.
Granted, it is confusing. Most authorities tend to have a "where
can I use my blue badge" page. I couldn't find one for Haringey.
But, this page
HTML https://new.haringey.gov.uk/parking/parking-permits/disabled/Blue-Badge
Could help. For "where can I park" it does point to the page you
linked.
So they have misled you.
Write something in your own word explaining this and post it up
for comment. (There is a reasonably view that you can either
express bemusement or point out the apparant error which misled
you).
(Do you hold the V5c or is it motability or a lease or some sort
of finance, that can impact later).
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Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: July 1, 2024, 3:27 pm
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Sorry for not being clearer. Yes, my understanding is that it's
permitted.
OP, are you resident in Haringey?
Their permit is a good idea because it gives access to bays
which would normally not be available to BB holders.
Why do they have this permit?
Simples. While a BB cannot be virtual, this permit can. The
council's concern is the misuse/theft of BBs and therefore
they've not allowed BB parking but have allowed BB permit
parking. Very sensible and a bonus for resident BB holders.
But it extends to residents, not visitors, hence my question.
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Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 1, 2024, 6:18 pm
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[member=2147]Giorgio[/member] as per the guidance here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
/>please re-post the PCN without reducing the VRM or PCN number.
Also please answer the questions from H C Andersen and slapdash.
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Re: Haringey PCN Code 12(r) parked in resident bay N22 with blue
badge
DIR By: slapdash
Date: July 2, 2024, 4:32 am
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
> The council's concern is the misuse/theft of BBs and therefore
they've not allowed BB parking but have allowed BB permit
parking.
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OT: I am sure it helps with theft. But it it may change the
profile of misuse since the permit is assigned to a vehicle.
Many households may have 1 car and multiple users of it.
(A private hospital car park I use registers my badge for free
parking, it forces my partner to misuse because it won't accept
payment when they are there. But that's a different
manifestation of sensible idea with unintended consequence).
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