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#Post#: 35338--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: daisy
Date: September 2, 2024, 10:32 am
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Hi guys,
We came back from our holiday yesterday and found this in the
post:
HTML https://imgur.com/j3cPp08
HTML https://imgur.com/9zpPnEd
HTML https://imgur.com/xJFoYUq
HTML https://imgur.com/Jvv8sml
HTML https://imgur.com/Ed2PXOG
HTML https://imgur.com/509QEjB
I don't have much time left. I think the deadline is tomorrow,
so could you advise me asap?
Thanks
#Post#: 35341--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 2, 2024, 10:45 am
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Deadline to pay discount is not tomorrow. NOR fails to mention
power of adj. to extend time. I would go with cp's advice above.
My apologies.
#Post#: 35346--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: daisy
Date: September 2, 2024, 11:09 am
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I am sorry, but I am counting 14 days as it says in the letter
"beginning with the date of this rejection" so I can pay the
reduced rate. Is that not right?
#Post#: 35352--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: September 2, 2024, 12:05 pm
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You may wish to repost page 1 of the rejection, redacting your
name & address.
#Post#: 35357--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: daisy
Date: September 2, 2024, 12:49 pm
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Oops, thanks.
#Post#: 35382--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 2, 2024, 3:36 pm
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--- Quote from: Hippocrates link ---
>
> Deadline to pay discount is not tomorrow. NOR fails to mention
power of adj. to extend time. I would go with cp's advice above.
>
> My apologies.
>
--- End Quote ---
It is tomorrow.
#Post#: 35387--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 2, 2024, 4:17 pm
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--- Quote from: daisy link ---
>
> I am sorry, but I am counting 14 days as it says in the letter
"beginning with the date of this rejection" so I can pay the
reduced rate. Is that not right?
>
--- End Quote ---
You are.
#Post#: 35504--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: daisy
Date: September 3, 2024, 12:00 pm
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> I don't see any unforeseeable event in the video, the van
might in front of the bus might be pulling over or taking a left
turn, it hardly matters.
>
> The arguments I can see are:
>
> 1) De-minimis, the van behind the bus only stops for 5 / 6
seconds, but this is really the upper-limit for a de-minimis
defence and won't be accepted by most adjudicators
>
> 2) Paperwork errors. The PCN makes a reference to the date of
service right next to the payment periods, which is arguably
ambiguous and confusing.
>
> 3) The website argument explained in the cases at rows 587 to
603 here
HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?gid=642784037#gid=642784037&range=A587.
>
>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/jszTAYE.png
>
> The third point should only be raised at the tribunal stage,
but given its success rate it's definitely worth running given
Brent's website doesn't list any statutory grounds of appeal at
all.
>
> As a starting point please post all the remaining pages of the
PCN so that we can check for further issues.
>
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I have checked both cases mentioned above but I could not see
anything relevant. I am sorry but it is so confusing.
#Post#: 35568--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 4, 2024, 3:06 am
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[member=2137]daisy[/member] Try this one:
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X8WGsVS-DSfY_ndf6VsbOTKUYO880bQG/view
Have you paid the discount? If not, it is Tribunal time. Also,
I do not think they have satisfactorily replied to the dates
issue as they describe it as date of service.
The de minimis argument would not be accepted by some
adjudicators at all. In fact, the ones who used to accept 2 to 3
seconds have now left.
#Post#: 35631--------------------------------------------------
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when
prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road
DIR By: daisy
Date: September 4, 2024, 10:49 am
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Yes,
I paid it last night.
Thanks for your time and support.
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