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Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: February 2, 2025, 5:13 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> The law is that one can pay the discount at any time within
the discount period despite submitting a representation. So if
Havering are saying on their documents that if you submit reps
you are not entitled to the discount they are wrong in law, and
need to be dragged over the coals on this.
>
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I don't know is this answers your comment - from 22 July
Havering Council removed the opportunity of the 50% discount if
appeal overturned
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Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 2, 2025, 5:33 am
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Second PM sent as a reply. We need to get on with this.
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Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: February 2, 2025, 6:15 am
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--- Quote from: Haveringresident link ---
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> [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=2379.msg56181#msg56181
date=1738451501]
> The law is that one can pay the discount at any time within
the discount period despite submitting a representation. So if
Havering are saying on their documents that if you submit reps
you are not entitled to the discount they are wrong in law, and
need to be dragged over the coals on this.
>
--- End Quote ---
I don't know is this answers your comment - from 22 July
Havering Council removed the opportunity of the 50% discount if
appeal overturned
[/quote]
Not really. A case in Nottingham some years ago went to the
adjudicators because the recipient sent in an appeal, then
attempted to pay the discount before the discount period
expired, and was prevented from doing so on the payment entry
screen. The appeal at TPT was won, and the adjudicator stated
that there was the absolute right in law to pay the discount
within the discount period irrespective of any representations
having been submitted. Havering cannot override laws approved by
Parliament.
So what do the Havering PCNs say ?
#Post#: 56213--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 2, 2025, 6:31 am
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Havering PCNs are all over the place as is their website. Needs
a JR application. More important now is to sort this one out
asap. Appeal filed. Used the appeal form as guidance. :D :o
::)
#Post#: 56356--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 3, 2025, 7:44 am
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HTML https://democracy.havering.gov.uk/documents/s74951/181.%20Parking%20PCN%20Discount%20Non-key%20Decision%20July%202024-Final.pdf
#Post#: 57142--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: February 7, 2025, 1:54 pm
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I have a forthcoming review hearing with the Chief Adjudicator
shortly. 17th.
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/suggested-meeting-for-members-at-furnival-street-next-wednesday-12th-andor-17th/msg57080/#msg57080
Drinks are on me. ;D Some straight talking will take place.
Politely, of course.
This case is on 25th. Not only but also.[i][/i] PCNs are not
right, website is not right. Wednesbury unreasonable. Then they
send the wrong appeal form. Victor Meldrew stuff. "I don't
believe it!"
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Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 7, 2025, 6:21 am
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The plot thickens. And yet another member has had their PCN
cancelled due to PCN letter incorrect wording.
I am reminded of The Nolan Principles. ::)
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Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 22, 2025, 7:07 am
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Well, two important documents have not been adduced.
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Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 24, 2025, 6:47 am
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@ cp8759
The traffic order is The Havering (Traffic Movement and Speed
Limit Regulations) (Consolidation) Order 2017
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QPmNRj0704PvB1innESyonltgtgusx86/view<br
/>and the map tile is here
HTML https://store.traffweb.app/havering/documents/parkmap/msched/AD21_rv1_2.pdf.
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Re: Contravention code 53J Havering entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: March 25, 2025, 2:05 pm
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Sanguine Purgatory! More work to do. :-X
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