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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 2, 2024, 2:44 am
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Unfortunately only an email address for viewing the footage.
What would be the best postage option use - tracked or 1st class
signed for? Just getting myself prepared.
I managed to copy onto CD-R which I found. I have other options
if better - CD-RW or DVD-RW. I also did both options on separate
CDs - 1 for to 'use like a USB flash drive and the other to use
with a CD/DVD player' as I didn't know which was the best
option. The one to use with CD does not open automatically so if
the other is suitable for USB then I'd prefer to use that one.
I copied the video I took on dash cam yesterday - called 'short
clip with signage'.
#Post#: 28399--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 2, 2024, 6:10 pm
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I'd just send both CDs (there's no point in sending a rewritable
disc) by special delivery (a bit expensive but worth it in this
instance), here's the text of the representation:
[indent]
Dear London Borough of Havering,
I challenge liability on the ground that the alleged
contravention did not occur, owing to the inadequacy of the
signage. I refer you to the video on the attached CDs.
Yours faithfully,
[/indent]
Obviously make sure to keep the tracking number and check when
it's been delivered.
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 3, 2024, 3:57 am
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Can I ask what is considered to be inadequate about the signage
as I am sure they will disallow this? I have the address for
Havering Council - should I just mark this for the Parking
Appeals or Contravention Appeals Officer ? Thanks
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 3, 2024, 4:18 am
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> I have the address for Havering Council - should I just mark
this for the Parking Appeals or Contravention Appeals Officer ?
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The address is on the PCN, under 'How to make represenatation'.
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 3, 2024, 9:02 am
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Sent 24hr track & sign
Havering are well known for refusing appeals so fingers crossed.
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 3, 2024, 4:22 pm
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It's not an appeal, it's a representation. I also think the
council will refuse it, but you then have strong grounds to
appeal to the tribunal where I think you have very good odds of
winning.
#Post#: 28553--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 3, 2024, 4:25 pm
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Thanks👍
#Post#: 28756--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 5, 2024, 12:20 pm
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Although this representation was sent on 3 July 24hr track &
sign it hasn't arrived and no sign of it having left the depot
since arriving in Romford on 00:56 yesterday (4th). No further
luck on phoning - just told it was an 'aim' to deliver in that
timescale!
The date of the notice was 19 June - how long should I wait
without confirmation of delivery before taking the next step
which will probably have to be hand delivered?
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 6, 2024, 12:10 pm
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The deadline for representations to be made is 18 July.
#Post#: 30710--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 22, 2024, 1:32 pm
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In the end I had to delivery the CDs and letter by hand on 10
July (I videod my entry and handover of the pack) to the council
offices as the 24hr track is still sitting at the Distribution
centre since the 4 July.
Havering Council have updated their PCN details and after 22
July there is no 50% discount if appeal fails.Doesn't affect me
as my appeal was prior to 22 July (today)but have added the
document on my One Drive:
HTML https://1drv.ms/w/s!Ap8lM3AI_i7_hJJlUUvizM-ZYqF50w?e=r5jfCa
What I am concerned about is that they have 56 days to reply
which is fine but a neighbour received a PCN and didn't receive
the rejection letter.
Havering Council said that she must have as it would have been
returned to them if not.
She ended up paying as the fine which was incorrect was running
into a couple of hundred pounds.
Having experienced poor service with Royal Mail and the 24hr
track and sign should I chase up prior to that time? If of
course I could contact them!
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