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#Post#: 28116--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 1, 2024, 2:47 am
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> You said where previously advised. I've not seen any other
advice or where is says it is unenforceable.
> Could you enlarge on this info please
> Thanks
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I advised this on a similar thread. Just say the PCN contains
information to be included on an entirely different PCN in a
separate legislation and therefore is a nonsense.
#Post#: 28177--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 1, 2024, 9:50 am
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I don't seem to be able to include the latest quote from
Hippocrates
I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by the info on
PCN being on an entirely different PCN etc
#Post#: 28178--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 1, 2024, 10:02 am
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As requested a quick video clip of the road with previous
signage (which I didn't see) plus photos of the signage close up
on One Drive :
HTML https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ap8lM3AI_i7_hJI-uAoaJDT18ru4HQ?e=XWQSep
I also read the details in the excel cases 587-603 in which
similar cases appear to relate to details with the PCN being
different to those details on the council online drop down on
the website which I don't believe apply here ?
#Post#: 28181--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 1, 2024, 10:09 am
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--- Quote from: Haveringresident link ---
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> I don't seem to be able to include the latest quote from
Hippocrates
>
>
> I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by the info on
PCN being on an entirely different PCN etc
>
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The ground about the traffic order belongs to parking
legislation therefore it iw wrong and misleading to include it
in this moving traffic PCN.
#Post#: 28185--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 1, 2024, 10:21 am
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I'm being a bit thick here but how do I explain this in the
details for the appeal as I can't find the info that you refer
to on the PCN and thought that was also mentioned by Incandecent
and disputed by cp8759?
#Post#: 28206--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 1, 2024, 1:49 pm
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Details attached in link with further photos of signage.
Is anyone able to clarify whether I can appeal as I'm now
confused about the info and will have to pay the PCN tomorrow.
I've never in my life had a PCN so I'm struggling with the
terminology.
#Post#: 28222--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 1, 2024, 3:55 pm
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Could I have clarification if I'm likely to be able to appeal?
Getting lost on the jargon unfortunately and will need to pay
the PCN tomorrow.
Have uploaded a short video with signage photos
#Post#: 28223--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 1, 2024, 4:03 pm
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[member=2138]Haveringresident[/member] forget about paying the
PCN tomorrow, the website ground along gives you an almost
certain win as the grounds listed on the council website are all
wrong: ground F, G and H on the council website are all
inapplicable. Add this with the council's likely inability to
supply a copy of your video to the tribunal, and you've got them
on two grounds (if they can't supply a copy of the video you
send with the representations, then that's a failure to supply a
true copy of the representations and that alone will win the
day).
Would you be able to put the video you've filmed onto a CD and
post it to the council? Please confirm before doing anything, as
I'll have to draft some wording for you.
#Post#: 28225--------------------------------------------------
Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: Haveringresident
Date: July 1, 2024, 4:19 pm
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EDIT
Found CD-R / CD-RW and DVD -RW.
OPTIONS - use like USB flash drive or with a CD/DVD player?
Could it not be emailed rather than on CD?. Do you mean the
latest video clip from today?
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Re: Contravention code 53J – Havering – entering school zone
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 1, 2024, 6:21 pm
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--- Quote from: Haveringresident link ---
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> Could it not be emailed rather than on CD?. Do you mean the
latest video clip from today?
>
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Does the PCN provide an email address where representations can
be sent? As the resolution of your photos is so low I can't
actually read the representations page. Obviously email would be
better but it might not be an option if no email address is
given.
I was referring to the dashcam video you posted showing the
signage.
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