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#Post#: 1709--------------------------------------------------
Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: maisiethecat
Date: July 21, 2023, 9:32 am
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Afternoon all I originally posted on Pepipoo but have been asked
to post on here.
''hi all, looking for advice, wife was driving in Rromford,
essex (north street) she was in a lane and to the left was a bus
lane, on the other side of the road it is a single lane (not a
bus lane) the bus lane operates from 4pm to 7pm, my wife drive
into the bus lane at 18.58pm because she could she oncoming cars
passing a parked bus further up on the other side of the road
(bus looks like it had indicator on to move out but doesnt in
the video), the cars are entering her oncoming lane to pass the
bus, so she has moved over into the bus lane.''
I asked if it was worth contesting the ticket, many said its
worth a go, so i did some forum members helped me word a
challenge which was
''
On the day of the alleged offence 21st April, I was driving
towards the A12 away from Romford in the appropriate driving
lane. The road head was clear. A London bus was parked in the
opposite traffic lane facing me.
As I approached the bus, I was suddenly confronted with a stream
of traffic heading towards me on my side of the road. This
traffic had obviously overtaken the bus, without ensuring that
the road was clear for them to complete the manoeuvre safely.
Whilst the fault for this situation was clearly with the
oncoming traffic. I had to take evasive action to avoid a head
on collision.
The action I chose was to move into the bus lane to avoid
oncoming traffic.
The council may consider that I had other options. For example
doing an emergency stop. Or that I could have been more aware of
the danger, and driven more cautiously.
Whilst my decision making could have been improved, the alleged
contravention specifically is driving in a bus lane.
Notice that prior to the incident I was driving in the correct
lane. I gained no advantage by driving in the bus lane, for
example to facilitate undertaking, or prematurely moving over
before turning left etc.
It is clear that the only reason I moved into the bus lane was
to avoid an accident. Avoiding an accident is an exemption to
this contravention. So this PCN should be cancelled.''
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: maisiethecat
Date: July 21, 2023, 9:37 am
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just to add the challenge was rejected , short version was that
bus lane operates from 4-7pm and vehicle should have stopped in
the correct lane and given way to the vehicles overtaking,
instead your vehicle continued to travel using a restricted bus
lane during operational hours.
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: maisiethecat
Date: July 21, 2023, 9:38 am
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here's the cctv of the offence
HTML https://imgur.com/2RloXtf
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: maisiethecat
Date: July 21, 2023, 9:39 am
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my next question is where do i go from here, 2 mins before the
cut off, oncoming traffic, bus on the opposite lane blocking
the traffic i was hoping that there would be a little bit of
leniency but its a straight no.
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: July 21, 2023, 11:13 am
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Thread needs to be in civil-penalty-charge-notices - I've asked
a mod to move.
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: lexy
Date: July 21, 2023, 11:55 am
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You can try appealing on the two minutes thing, but that's about
all you've got. The video is pretty damning - she's fairly
belting it right along the bus lane. I don't think you'd get
anywhere with any other argument, even if those oncoming cars
were in the wrong by not giving way.
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: July 21, 2023, 3:09 pm
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Please show all the PCN
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: July 21, 2023, 6:52 pm
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As above, post all pages of the PCN please.
In the meantime I'll try and find out the make and model of the
camera.
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: maisiethecat
Date: July 22, 2023, 6:28 am
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hi are the pcns front page
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Re: Bus lane PCN for havering, moved into bus lane for oncoming
traffic and issued with a PCN
DIR By: maisiethecat
Date: July 22, 2023, 6:28 am
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this is the response to the challenge, there was no second page
or any details on the back of this one.
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