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       DVLA penalty for untaxed vehicle
   DIR By: coxic
       Date: June 27, 2024, 2:57 pm
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       I have received a penalty notice from the DVLA for an untaxed
       vehicle. It says that they have received evidence that a vehicle
       that is registered to me was being used or kept while untaxed.
       It goes on to say that I must pay £114. Is it possible to avoid
       this charge?
       Further info:
       The vehicle in question is a classic car which does limited
       mileage and I may have moved it onto the road from my driveway
       in order to gain access to the garage (as I have done on many
       occasions).
       There is no proof of this evidence on the DVLA website or in the
       correspondence sent to me, however I cannot deny that the
       vehicle had ran out of tax. Unfortunately I forgot to SORN the
       car over winter.
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       Re: DVLA penalty for untaxed vehicle
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: June 27, 2024, 3:45 pm
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       There is no proof of this evidence on the DVLA website or in the
       correspondence sent to me, however I cannot deny that the
       vehicle had ran out of tax. Unfortunately I forgot to SORN the
       car over winter.
       You clearly know the binary options: tax or SORN.
       You did neither.
       Their proof is that a certificate of destruction hasn't been
       raised, therefore the car exists, and this VRM is neither taxed
       nor SORN'd.
       IMO, it's this simple in principle and confirmed on the DVLA
       website:
       Being the registered keeper of an untaxed vehicle.
       identified from DVLA records
       But what is your intention, to tax(so that you can go to shows
       etc) or SORN?
       IMO, all that could be at issue is the amount of the penalty.
       Where's their letter?
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       Re: DVLA penalty for untaxed vehicle
   DIR By: coxic
       Date: June 27, 2024, 3:59 pm
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       My intention is to SORN for now. It will be taxed after I get it
       MOT'd.
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       Re: DVLA penalty for untaxed vehicle
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: June 28, 2024, 2:28 am
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       The other pages pl i.e. the grounds on which the penalty could
       be disputed.
       #Post#: 27821--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DVLA penalty for untaxed vehicle
   DIR By: coxic
       Date: June 28, 2024, 5:30 am
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       There are no other pages. It's a single piece of paper. The
       backside of which is as below.
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       #Post#: 27994--------------------------------------------------
       Re: DVLA penalty for untaxed vehicle
   DIR By: ivanleo
       Date: June 30, 2024, 8:58 am
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       [member=2118]coxic[/member] I've moved this to the relevant part
       of the forum, this has nothing to do with council PCNs.
       By your own admission you kept a car that was neither taxed nor
       SORNe'd, so you appear to have no defence to the allegation. The
       fact that any reminder letters might have been lost in the post
       or even never sent in the first place is irrelevant, the offence
       is not dependent on you receiving anything from DVLA. If you
       have not SORN'ed the car yet, I suggest you go online and do
       that right now.
       As for the out-of-court settlement, see what others say but I
       think it's the least damaging outcome you can hope for. If this
       goes to court it will cost a lot more, and in the absence of any
       defence it would be a pointless exercise.
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       Re: DVLA penalty for untaxed vehicle
   DIR By: mdann52
       Date: July 1, 2024, 5:54 am
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       If it was neither taxed nor sorned, an offence under S31a
       Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994
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       appears
       to have been committed. The only defence seemingly available
       would be if the vehicle is exempt from VED.
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